[quote=@Crusader Lord] Posted! Trying to get some non-smeltery-or-smithing-efforts type stuff up for a moment. A peek into a potential friendship and into how far this hard-working redhead is willing to go! Not that she's quite at her goal yet, but if the ancients had to tinker a lot to get things to work....even someone with a great head-start in knowledge still has to figure it out in the practical sense all the same! Etc, etc. Next post I am tempted to get a 'first metal tool is made' bit to happen, even if its maybe a hammer head of a small sort attached to a wooden handle of some kind, but I need to figure out if clay vessels and stuff like wooden tongs might work for metalworking stuff. ((I have no perfect picture on how the first metal hammers were made so far in my research, ugh. Does anyone here have some potential info on that so I can have a practical and sensiuble progression for Eliza making metal tools and such? (@_@))) [/quote] If you mean bronze tools, then I'd say thats been around for a while. If iron though... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrous_metallurgy 'It is not known when or where the smelting of iron from ores began, but by the end of the 2nd millennium BC, iron was being produced from iron ores in the region from Greece to India,' As for metal production seems to go like Copper Bronze Meteoric iron Naitve/Telluric iron Iron ore