[quote=@Ezekiel] Given I am all caught up on the couple of collabs I have in the works and we've lost a few people (albeit one only for a few days) I thought I'd throw down a second concept. Something that's been cooking in my brain for a fair few iterations. Carrying on my trend of being a bit more ambitious than I've been in the past so more than happy if adjustments are required. [hider=Don't worry everyone, he's ...] [COLOR=1E90FF][INDENT][B][SUP][SUB][H3]A B S O L U T E ( L Y ):[/H3][/SUB][/SUP][/B][/INDENT][hr][/COLOR] [INDENT][COLOR=SLATEGRAY][CENTER][sup][h1][center][img]https://elestoque.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Ex-iyx6WQAAk95S-900x503.jpg[/img][/center][b][color=1E90FF] I N V I N C I B L E[/color] [color=FFD700] I N V I N C I B L E[/color][/b][/h1][/sup] [color=1E90FF][sup][i]"You, Dad. I'd still have you."[/i][/sup][/color][/CENTER] [table][row][/row][row][cell][center] [sub][sup][sub][h3][b][color=black] C H A R A C T E R P O R T R A I T[/color] [color=1E90FF]C H A R A C T E R P O R T R A I T[/color][/b][/h3][/sub][/sup][/sub] [sup]_________________________________________________________[/sup][img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Invincible_52.jpg[/img] [sup]_________________________________________________________[/sup] [sub][sup][sub][h3][b][color=black] C H A R A C T E R S U M M A R Y[/color] [color=1E90FF]C H A R A C T E R S U M M A R Y[/color][/b][/h3][/sub][/sup][/sub] [sup]_________________________________________________________[/sup] [sub][COLOR=darkgray]Mark Jonathon Grayson[/COLOR] [sup]_________________________________________________________[/sup] [COLOR=darkgray]19[/COLOR] [b]|[/b] [COLOR=darkgray]American / Half-Viltrumite[/COLOR][/sub][/center] [indent][sub][sup][sub][h3][b][color=black] S U P P O R T I N G C A S T[/color] [color=1E90FF]S U P P O R T I N G C A S T[/color][/b][/h3][/sub][/sup][/sub][/INDENT] [sup]_________________________________________________________[/sup] [INDENT][hider=Supporting Cast][indent][sub][b][color=FFD700] A L L I E S[/color][/b][/sub] [sup]▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔ [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ [COLOR=CC2200]Nolan Grayson / Omni-Man[/COLOR][/b] — Father, mentor, and the secret Mark doesn't yet know to look for.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ Debbie Grayson[/b] — Mother, force of nature in her own right despite the lack of powers[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ [COLOR=FF69B4]Atom Eve[/COLOR][/b] — Closest peer among the Titans; their dynamic is honest in a way most of his relationships aren't.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ [COLOR=28B0F3]Nightwing[/COLOR][/b] — Titans leader; a reluctant point of comparison for Mark, who resents how much he respects him.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ [COLOR=FF8C00]Starfire[/COLOR][/b], [b][COLOR=#E6E8FA]Cyborg[/COLOR][/b], [b][COLOR=9932CC]Monster Girl[/COLOR][/b], [b][COLOR=#008080]Aqualad[/COLOR][/b] — The Titans roster; allies by proximity and shared work, not yet by formal commitment.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ Cecil Stedman[/b] (Wider Game NPC) — GDA Director; pays the bills for the Titans and keeps a close eye on Mark. The relationship is useful and uncomfortable in equal measure.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ Art Rosenbaum[/b] — Costume designer and one of the few older figures Mark genuinely trusts.[/color][/sup][/indent] [indent][sub][b][color=1E90FF] A N T A G O N I S T S[/color][/b][/sub] [sup]▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔ [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ [COLOR=CC2200]Omni-Man[/COLOR][/b] — Latent. Mark does not yet know.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ The Viltrumites[/b] — The big bad shadow on the wall.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ The Mauler Twins[/b] — Recurring antagonists.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ Titan / Machinehead[/b] — Emerging threat.[/color] [COLOR=darkgray][b]◼ Cecil Stedman[/b] (Wider Game NPC) — Potential antagonist depending on the choices Mark makes going forward.[/color][/sup][/indent][color=#2e2c2c]-[/color][/hider][/INDENT] [indent][sub][sup][sub][h3][b][color=black] P O S T C A T A L O G U E[/color] [color=FFD700]P O S T C A T A L O G U E[/color][/b][/h3][/sub][/sup][/sub][/INDENT] [sup]_________________________________________________________[/sup] [INDENT][sup][COLOR=darkgray][color=FFD700][b]01[/b][/color] - TBD[/color][/sup][color=#2e2c2c]-[/color][/INDENT] [/cell][cell] [INDENT][sub][sup][sub][h3][b][color=black] C H A R A C T E R C O N C E P T[/color] [color=1E90FF]C H A R A C T E R C O N C E P T[/color][/b][/h3][/sub][/sup][/sub][/INDENT] [sup]___________________________________________________________________________________[/sup] [COLOR=DARKGRAY][indent]For a long time I've been pondering how to adapt an Invincible concept to these games while also maintaining the DC/Marvel focus they tend to have. Right now seems like a pretty good time to attempt this balance given the more varied concepts this game as well as the nice gaps people have left with their concepts I can fill in. With many of Kirkman's concepts being 'how he would do x hero team' I felt replacing the Teen Team with the actual Teen Titans (or just Titans in this case) worked well, with a combination of their Invincible comic characters and Titans team members. Given the Bat related sheets have steered clear of defining anything for Nightwing I don't think this should be treading on any toes, but as with anything, happy to change to accommodate. It's definitely a bigger supporting cast than I am used to defining but I'm trying to push myself a bit more with this one. Mark Grayson grew up knowing his father was one the most powerful hero on the planet, and for a long time that felt like a gift. Then his own powers emerged and the gift came with weight: expectations, comparisons, and a world already full of legends. He has been Invincible for a few years now — long enough to have earned his name and the attention of the GDA, not long enough to feel certain about any of it. Mark Grayson is nineteen, about to start college, and increasingly aware that more established heroes, most notably the Titans, seem to have already figured out things he hasn't. He hasn't committed to the them, or indeed any other formal institution; he tells himself it's about freedom, but some of it is about not wanting to be seen as a sidekick to his own era. His Viltrumite heritage is, to him, simply the reason his dad is strong and he is too. He has no knowledge of the Viltrum Empire, no sense of the ancient divergence from the ancient proto-Kryptonian spacefaring civilisation, and no idea that his father is anything other than the hero he presents as. That unknowing is the quiet fault line running under everything. The story is about what happens when the ground starts to shift. [/indent][/COLOR] [INDENT][sub][sup][sub][h3][b][color=black] P L O T ( S ) & G O A L ( S )[/color] [color=FFD700]P L O T ( S ) & G O A L ( S )[/color][/b][/h3][/sub][/sup][/sub][/INDENT] [sup]__________________________________________________________________________________[/sup] [COLOR=DARKGRAY][INDENT]The immediate arc centres on Mark beginning university while navigating an increasingly complex heroic landscape. The GDA's sponsorship of the Titans puts him in proximity to Cecil Stedman — a man whose methods he already finds uncomfortable. The Titans themselves represent a kind of peer pressure: join, contribute, commit. Mark wants to do things his way, which is half principle and half the fact that he genuinely doesn't know what his way is yet. As Kryptonians exist in this setting I think the best way to merge the existence of Kypton and Viltrum to an extent. Viltrum was an off shoot of the ancient Kryptonian spacefaring society (in the vein of Last Days of Krypton) before they self-isolated themselves, and have developed significantly differently in the time apart. They would not have been aware of each other due to the vast span of time involved and efforts by both to eradicate complicated history. I am more than happy to change this based on feedback from relevant parties but it seemed a reasonable mystery I could eventually explore. The shadow of Omni-Man underlies everything. Nolan is managing his own crisis of faith alongside a calculated patience, and Mark is the unwitting variable in both. The goal is not to rush that revelation but to seed it — through Mark's growing discomfort with his father's certainty, through encounters that Nolan handles in ways that don't quite add up. This is notably later than this occurs in the show or comics, as I would like to tell that story without making it an established part of the game's lore, as well as the presence of something of the big hitters of DC and Marvel provide a fairly compelling reason for Nolan to delay any attempts he has to co-opt his son into his grand schemes[/INDENT][/COLOR] [/cell][/row][/table] [sub]__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________[/sub] [right][color=FFD700][sup][i]"I mean, Earth has the best comics. "[color=2e2c2c]___[/color][/i][/sup][/color][/right] [/COLOR][/INDENT] [/hider] [/quote] Outside of throwing a wrench in the Nightwing plans, I have a couple of other reservations: - Invincible, as a series, in general has a penchant for massive destruction and loss of life. Especially where Omni-Man and the Viltrumites are concerned. In comparison, in my experience at least, rarely do DC/Marvel comics actually focus on the same scale of destruction. So I guess my first question is, how do you intend to translate these larger-scale fights into the game and deal with the repercussions of them? - Viltrumites as Proto-Kryptonians. What does this mean? How does this affect Viltriumites as a whole? Are they the same as they are in 'Invincible' but with flavour text, or do they now also have the same abilities and weaknesses as Kryptonians? -If the Viltrumites don't have the same weaknesses as Kryptonians, how do you intend to incorporate them in such a way that they're scaled appropriately to the game's cast? How big an ambition do you have for bringing Viltrumites to Earth? Or how big of a threat is Omni-Man going to be? Keeping in mind, during the opening arc of Invincible, he eradicated his version of a Justice League. - The Titans battling a villain named Titan? That won't get confusing to read lol.