[quote=NewSun] Not as effective as you may think, actually. I do hope we all abide by some semi-logiclal constraints of combat. The main problem with a knife is that it's really a short weapon, it's more effective at thrusting than actually slashing, it's always going to be ineffective vs armour due to a few factors, including the fact that there is next-to-no weight behind as of it's slashing or thrusting attacks. Or something like that, anyway. [/quote] Knives are also a fairly useful disarming weapon, and a well placed throw can catch a chink in anyone's armor as long as it exists. But I get where you're coming from, I'll just have to wait out the display. And Sam is normally a much more powerful character but I needed him into the ground because I thought our party was gonna be fairly average >_>