[quote=ASTA] ...It seems like these threads only ever attract those that accept evolution as fact, in which the same infallible proof, facts and concepts are thrown about as suitable counters to the inherently flawed beliefs produced by creationists and devote theists. Sometimes, they turn into insufferable circle-jerks.It's kind of hilarious, actually. [/quote] Holy shit you must have an IQ of 280!!! :golfclap With that said, I don't see why so many people are either, "DERP IT MUS B TIS WAY 100%" or "HERP IT IZ TIS WAY 100%, U WONG"... Personally, I believe in both. God (or gods) took three of HIS/HER/THEIR days (which as an immortal omnipotent being, I'd believe it's be billions-Trillions of years to us = 1 day to god/gods) to make everything though evolution and all that shit that makes the world so good and science so interesting. So, there you have it... "How was the universe made?" God/gods creating some big explosion or some shit to make the universe off of trillions of years of time. "How was Humans made?" God/gods set shit in motion and had evolution do it's thing to create humanity... He/Her/They just watched and made sure shit stayed in line. "What about dinosaurs?" I don't believe god/gods is perfect, just far more powerful than us. He/Her/They fucked up, didn't like his mistake, let out a sigh and decided to just fucking destroy shit and restart. "You're Wro..." No, Shut the fuck up you fucking moron. This is MY personal belief, you have NO SAY in it since it! "But..." But what? I included both evolution and creationism... I am saying that there is a god/gods that made everything (creationism) and that Evolution DOES take place (Evolutionism)... Only arguable differences I see here is that 1) took god/gods longer than 3 actual Days (or days that we as humans perceive) and 2) Evolution is started by god/gods, controlled by god/gods and ends with god/gods. 1 because hard core creationists love the idea that god/gods did shit in 3 literal Earth days and 2 because if and only if those evolutionists are atheists and don't believe in god/gods... "God/gods doesn't exist you-" Okay, cool... glad to know you believe that... but I don't. So, fuck off. I believe what I want. "God/gods DID make everything in three day-" Okay, cool... glad to know you believe that... but I don't. So, fuck off. I believe what I want. "Hello would you like to learn more about our lord and savior Je-" No... And that is what I believe. I might sound aggressive but I want to make my point out, I'm not here to debate and argue about something that nobody can really prove without including religion or atheism, in which this isn't about that fucking shit.... It's about whether human kind was made in an instant (or that human kind were made, not grown) or if evolution took place. To me both are wrong and both are right. so there. Now everyone knows more about me than 5 minutes ago (which is the whole purpose of this post). Have fun. :D With that said, I'll now start reading what everyone else said and get to know what they believe in too. Because things should be interesting here. :) EDIT: Sorry if I sound like a jerk or an inconsiderate ass or anything... I just don't really like posting in these threads since the majority of the time it leads to a major debate. I just want people to know what I believe in without actually having to fight about it. As I tried to say above, I'm not here to fight, just let others know what I believe in and get to know more on what others believe in. Basically me "Opening up" more to everyone and get to know others more.