[quote=ActRaiserTheReturned] Chinese history cannot be damning towards the Creation hypothesis. The Chinese don't exactly like to share their mythology/religions and the entirety of their culture with the rest of the world. [/quote] Irrelevant in the modern era. There's little that the world cannot learn if it chooses to at this point. Even from China. Plus, ignoring China, there's still... The rest of the world. North America, Central America, South America, Europe at the time (ancient tribes), Africa, the rest of Asia, India, the Slavs, Mongols, Egypt... The list could quite literally go on for hundreds of examples of histories that do not include a world-wide flood, leave alone one within the same time frame as the Biblical account. There's no geological evidence that it occurred. No sign of Noah's Ark, if it could even feasible exist in the first place... To say that the Biblical account is in any way comparable or equal to the accounts of the [b]rest of the planet[/b] is... Simply incorrect. :hehe If it was -just- China versus the Biblical account, sure, I could totally see your argument, but it's not, when one looks at it. [quote=Magic Magnum] China in history was actually a big lead in science. Largely with the how well the kept records of discoveries and observations. Places like China and Arabia although not scientific power houses today were the ones to set the ground work for places like Europe to pick up from later. [/quote] Science =/= History. [quote=ActRaiserTheReturned] That's not what I said. I said they don't like to share some of their cultural traditions with the outside world. [/quote] ^ That he did, but, then, cultural traditions doesn't always equal history either... [quote=Magic Magnum]You said they shouldn't be attacking the creationism theory because of their currently bad culture.[/quote] ...Whaaat? He said that nowhere... At all, in this thread. Uhm... Are you okay, Gwazi? [quote=Magic Magnum]I highlighted their skill bin science in the past gives then that right.[/quote] Okay. Even if we did argue that science always equates to accurate history (two different subjects) it's still over like, what, three thousand years old and, at best, recorded on paper? It's a valid argument to say that it may not be 100% accurate. The Biblical account is invalidated when you take into account the entire planet basically going "no that didn't happen", if it was just China, then yes, one could argue it otherwise. [quote=Magic Magnum]But I probably should of argued the culture comment instead of showing their scientific skill.[/quote] Joy. [quote=Magic Magnum]First off, each country is a vast collection of individuals. Just because they're country is not doing well is no reason to claim they cannot have a mind of their own.[/quote] He still didn't claim this... [quote=Magic Magnum]By that logic no american should question what they're told because their country is terrible for debt and starting wars over oil.[/quote] ... No really, he didn't. Why is America now in this conversation? They didn't exist yet. [quote=Magic Magnum]If instead you meant China doesn't try converting people there for they shouldn't question the creationism theory I'd say its in fact the reverse. They are humble/respectful enough to not by trying to make others think like they do.[/quote] China is to humble what murder is to preschool. Their philosophy in their country was "see it our way or die." They had several civil wars over this shit. It's one of the leading reasons why they didn't remain a superpower and ended up falling from grace before their recent return to power through industrialism. But, again, one would know that if they knew their world history... ;) [quote=Magic Magnum]Which the opposite of creationism which threatens people with eternal torture if they don't agree.[/quote] Creationism, while it is many stupid things, doesn't threaten people. Okay? Okay. --- You're both being really silly right now. One of you is arguing that a single piece of wheat isn't enough to disprove something in a whole [i]field[/i] of wheat, and the other one is saying to stop discriminating against apples. Just uh... Just stop. While you're ahead. :-3