[quote=Yog Sothoth] a good amount of science has to do with educated guesswork and trying to prove it to be fact. look at paleontology, that is mostly guesswork and is never truly proven to be fact, and that is a form of science. are you suggesting that science is always fact and never involves any sort of guesswork? my whole point is that at the end of the day both religious and non-religious people have tendencies to be assholes to one another, and claim to want the right to an opinion but insult others who don't share their opinion. [/quote] You forget that a lot of scientific research /does/ become fact, like Newton's Laws of physics, and gravity. Opinion =/= fact. Please don't think that way, this is why people call you stupid.