[quote=mbl] Large order, it'll take 10 turns of praying with Derv on his own, 5 with Derv and Drakel, less if you get more people. [/quote] So 2 turns per ax if he did it alone 1 turn if I helped him... If we prayed for one ax at a time wouldn't that mean we get 1 ax per turn? Also would praying for my ax to transform into a stone one make things any easier/ shorter since it doesn't need to be conjured up out of nothing, just transformed?