[quote=Turtlicious] I... said that.Like that's what I said, do you think everyone came into this without an opinion? Do you think ShonHarris wrote that whole beast of a post and it summed up to, "But I don't know, maybe you guys are right." Everyone in this sub-forum is spinning their wheels even though neither can convince the other side of anything, they just want to stroke their dicks and see how much BS they can throw into the ether lol. [/quote] No. That's spam :P Yes people here come in with opinions and views. But we have these discussions to keep exposing ourselves to other views, gain new information and expand our horizon. To roughly quote Neil deGrasse Tyson from Cosmos "There is no shame in admitting to not knowing something. The only shame is in claiming to know everything".