He shrugged, wincing slightly as his hand was slowly crushed. He said," you never know." He grabbed Ben's arm and yanked him forward, bringing his knee up and slamming it towards his gut. He was slowly figuring out how to handle him, but he wasn't sure how this would go. He would get more violent very quickly now that he reached this point. His claws dug deep into Ben's arm, to attempt to keep Ben there.