[quote=So Boerd] I am going to make a barbarian nation which, while having a small population, has superior metallurgic abilities due to presence of vanadium in the ores and crucible tech i.e. the wootz process [/quote] Vanadium was first discovered in 1801, and proved difficult to isolate with metallurgical processes until 1830. The metal also has absolutely nothing to do with Wootz Steel at all. Stay in the 5th Century. Also, we have someone already using Damascus steel in their nation, perhaps you should talk with them about your ideas and hash something out? Edit: lel, got ninja'd by the person in particular.