[quote=Revans Exile]Actionmasters are stupid IMO[/quote] Poor Actionmasters, hated by all. They really are the fucking worst Transformers line ever made, or at least a really, really strong contender for that spot. [quote=Revans Exile] I wasn't going to deal with the origin because it's been well over a million years since they formed and the Cons have had total control over the planet for near a millions years so just the oppressive regime of Shockwave where the NAILs are left alone and live in relative peace as long as they stay in line. On Cybertron right now the Decepticons are the rightful rulers as far as the Decepticons and NAILs are concerned because the Decepticons won the war. To use an analogy the Autobots are Al Qaeda, they are nothing more than losers (as in they lost the war not in slang people use) who can't accept they lost putting lives of innocent NAILs in danger. [/quote] I ask because it adds another depth to the roleplaying. In the G1 cartoon, even if Shockwave's Decepticons were the de-facto rulers of Cybertron after the Ark and Nemesis departed, non-Decepticons weren't going to support that, because the Decepticons in that continuity are basically 100% evil, starting the Great War entirely because they felt they could lord their military might over others; while in many, many other continuities people might be more willing to accept the Decepticon movement because they actually had a very legitimate cause to start a civil war. [quote=Revans Exile] Here is something to keep in mind, the cave where the Head/Power/Targetmasters live currently is more suited for the 6ft tall Transformer not the standard size Transformer. The standard size Transformer while at home may be forced to stay in vehicle mode the entire time. The small size of the cave is one of the natural defenses against the standard size Transformer. [/quote] Well, I get the cave is better navigated by human-sized beings but what's stopping Shockwave's troops from bombing/shelling the crap out of it and collapsing it over their heads, especially considering NAILs won't give a crap long as they're left alone? Also this does remind me, some normal cybertronians like Bumblebee, Brawn or Cliffjumper are actually kinda small compared to other members of their species, so what about them? Could they navigate the caves with only some mild discomfort? Granted, Transformer scale isn't exactly stable even across a single given work, but some guys were always just smaller than the rest.