Ah, but you see here is what was always my issue - if you can make photons out of magical energy and still have energy to spare, you automatically can also make that which is commonly referred to as matter. Photons themselves naturally turn into matter all the time (and [i]vice versa[/i], obviously), as I've mentioned. Granted, in the last quarter of the now-gone OoC, you did briefly mention that what limits the ability of people to form matter is not so much the impossibility of it, but lack of knowledge. (I don't know whether you redid some of the theory behind the magic in the world, since previously you've said things that contradicted a bit. [If knowing what light is like suffices to make photons, why doesn't the same apply to matter? More different particles?]) - I probably have specified it already, but I tend to approach these matters from the quantum physicist perspective (something I first took interest in myself ... and then got back to with a wide circle a long time later, through quantum cryptography and everything else), and that one is rather adamant on there being practically no difference whatsoever (it is one of the few things on which most - if not practically all - of the quantum theories actually agree on) whether you're making photons or, say, quarks. If we were to dissect things further - old question, again -, then if there is magical energy, then what is magic itself (besides something that is present in living things and the Spirit Realm)? Energy is only something's potential to affect something else, and thusly cannot exist on its own, but must necessarily always belong to something - to "carrier"-particles, so to speak. Well, and once again[i] vice versa[/i], since that which carries no energy can't obviously affect anything... [Okay, I *will* stop here.] Uhh... How many things you'd have to take account of when writing the collab-post? Can I help with it, somehow? I know I promised to elaborate further on Koraakan and those matters (and have been idly pondering about how exactly to put it all)... (I occasionally tend to make small notes for myself, too, utilizing whatever paper surface I find available in vicinity ... I never use said notes, and I clear them out quite often, but I guess there simply is something about actually writing things down on paper...? - And moreso, not simply writing them down in one of the half-dozen text files filled with random snippets present on literally all of my desktops. Nothing beats writing all your login info for different sites on brightly colored post-it notes and sticking those to the edge of your monitor as one person I know does, though.)