[quote=LeeRoy] You see nothing ridiculous about being curb stomped by a character half his size. You see nothing ridiculous about shooting a bear in the face for looking at you. You see nothing ridiculous about violently slamming the face of a bear into concrete.You really see nothing ridiculous about that? [/quote] No, I'm an infinitely logical being. A giant bear is nice, but it's still just a giant bear, it had no right to defeat the turtle in the exact situation where the turtle dominates. It was your choice to make a massive but tactically unsound and stupid bear. Fury used the equivalent of a 'shoo' motion to a fly, while also probing the bears strengths in case he later had to fight it. He's also crazy, and killed a bunch of random innocents, there's nothing remotely ridiculous about that. As for face planting the concrete, that made very little logical sense to me, but it's your decision how you want your character to be injured when he gets hit by incredibly fast people. Considering his size, it made more sense that Fury (with his bubble shield) would just glance off and bounce away, essentially leaving the bear with a bruise at most. The amount of force Fury would somehow have had to generate (and also transfer) to launch a massive bear face first into the ground would be immense.