[quote=Revans Exile] Which is why I don't have anything to do with them.Ultimate is just a retarded version of the original that should be cancelled with all Ultimate characters dying.He never was perfect, a perfect version would have stopped every criminal permanently during their first crime before anyone died.So he went from being a big dumb brute to being a big dumber brute beat by a child. That is just hilarious.Seen it. God Hal sucked in it. Vic Stone was a brat, loved his father though even though he was a dick to his son.I would chop my arm off to keep away from kids on my personal time. I have to see and hear them enough at work to last a life time.I love that guy, my favorite scene in any movie ever.If you are willing to give me the graphic novels for free then I will gladly read them, but as long as the comic book industry supports lying about death they will not get one penny from me.I have seen an intelligent Superman do that from an Earth where all or virtually all Super villains were lobotomized by Superman and the Justice League took over the planet. Now he was a Superman I could love. [/quote] you must really dislike DBZ as well right?