Noted, and I read up on them in the anniversary edition, so it's book didn't influence my consideration. I also understand the drive for the outside as one of my favorite characters is a salubri priest with 10 humanity and true faith. 

I have a hand full of independent locals who will meet on their own in regards to the coming cammies that I don't mind making the setting of the rp, but if I do that, everyone will have to be ok with it.