[quote=Kaga] >Magnum's mother believes vaccines cause autism. >Magnum never received any vaccinations as a kid. >Magnum has autism.... I feel like this should've been proof enough to her that there's not a connection.Or, even if there was, why would the risk of autism even matter if you were already autistic? [/quote] XD I agree it really should of. But to be fair there's a couple element's at play here. To start with I made a slight miss-wording. I don't have [u]no[/u] vaccines. Just very little, a number of these little also being one step 1's in what were meant to be multi-step vaccines... and not being completed I doubt those first step ones count for anything. So there was a minimal amount of vaccines in me that she could make the link with. Secondly, I wasn't diagnosed until I was three years old. Which was a bit after she stopped giving us vaccines, and her reason for not just giving me the vaccines afterwards then was she was worried it would make my autism even worse. Also she doesn't think that vaccines are the only cause to autism, just that it's a cause. She agree's that other things like genetics and environment also plays a role in it. Which however makes the Penn & Teller argument above even stronger because that was assuming all autism cases were the result of vaccines, and that's not even the case if you admit stuff like genetics and environment can cause it a lot of the time.