[quote=Schradinger] quitting [/quote] All I read there was "Well, fuck. This guy has logic I can't argue with. I better say something clever to make it sound like I won and he's a raving idiot." It's fine, I understand. Few people enjoy seeing someone pick apart the logic of someone they are friends with. Long and short of it is this. Green saw what I was about to do, played the "LOL He's crazy so I can do this" card, metagamed so hard that metagaming's mom felt it, and gets off free-and-clear because he's more familiar to everyone than this n00b that is mad about being metagamed on. [quote=Vordak] The only logic I've seen out of anyone other than myself in four pages of debate [/quote] THANK YOU!