[quote=Darog the Badger God] I'm now imagining So Bored being the kind of debater that does not listen to anyone, and loves the sound of his own voice, and keeps leaking idiocy like a douchebag faucet. [/quote] Keep the personal attacks out of here, kay Daroq? We're talking about heavy stuff that is likely to get some people hot under the collar. We don't need blatant personal attacks threatening to close this thread as we tear our ideas apart.