[quote=Major Ursa] I blame WolfmanVsDracula (or whatever it was called), Underworld, and Twilight for this...originally, vampires and werewolves weren't enemies, that's a mainstream movie thing... [/quote] Before any of that there was White Wolf Games World of Darkness line of games. Those games are where that whole thing started to gain a foothold in peoples imaginations. Without Vampire: The Masquerade and Werewolf: The Apocalypse, Vampires & Werewolves would likely still be considered allies. However, by the opposite side of that coin; those games went miles toward refining the concept of vampire & werwolf cultures & societies. Andwithout that,the popular imagination might still consider both monsters to be little more than demonic brutes.