[quote=ActRaiserTheReturned]Ummm. . . I said "He doesn't JUST", "Just" is a word used to mean "He doesn't ONLY" you know. "God doesn't only know all scientific and logical knowledge. He knows all things. The ways of wisdom, everything".[/quote]

Misread you, sorry, my bad. :hehe

Still, knows all things, can't figure out how to make a universe without suffering and madness and evil and damning billions of his own children to die horrible. Hm. Not a very smart god. :lol

[quote=ActRaiserTheReturned]Metaphor sir. Metaphor. I mean, you could live in a perfect, dull, uninteresting world, with everything being daisies, flowers, sun light, unicorns and fluffy pegasi with smiley faces everywhere. And let it be that way forever and ever. You monster.[/quote]

Hm... Nope. Not interested in such a world. Because I'm mortal, and have mortal whims, and mortal flaws. Eternity in paradise is boring, which is what the bible promises me for believing and worshipping the tyrant deity that took it away in the first place.

...Makes me wonder if there's also a tree of knowledge in heaven you aren't supposed to bite from. :lol

[quote=ActRaiserTheReturned]Or, you could have this toilet of a planet, with it's good and bad moments, die, be taken to Jesus, live forever in eternal bliss that makes even the best marriages in this world look like a hand shake in comparison.
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So basically, let me get this straight, from a narrative perspective here.

A god who knows everything and has unlimited power created the universe and everything in it. There he creates a paradise for some fuck off race of creatures he made in his image, complete with having the sewage system networked into the entertainment and procreation system. Then he creates an impossible to pass test, and creates a seducing monster in the guise of a beautiful angel, then is shocked when it betrays him despite already knowing it would. Snake thing then talks to dirt man and rib woman and after failing the impossible test they are damned forever, all their children are damned forever, and so on.

Then, he continues to create human beings, or at the very least their programming and hard wiring and so forth because he's a techie like that. Fast forward past all the genocides and rapes and the world wide flood and so on to the present day. He programs me to be a skeptic and not believe things at face value, then leaves utterly no evidence behind that would convince me to believe in him, then sends me to be damned in hell and burn for eternity because I did [i]exactly as he programmed me to do[/i].

Meanwhile, you and others like you will go to the eternal paradise you say is so very boring and which we can't have immediately because for some reason you have to suffer for 50-100ish years before he will love you enough to give you the thing he originally gave your great great great great great great ancestors but decided to take away because reasons nobody can comprehend.

Yes.

This makes complete sense for a loving, forgiving God.