[quote=Brovo] No. I'm taking the bible literally. And you apparently can't come up with a counter argument for why your loving, omnipotent, omniscient god, would unleash the most horrifying of evils on the very things he loves when he has the power to empower them with whatever he wants them to learn immediately and without pain, making the pain itself absolutely pointless. Which is good. [/quote] Because He doesn't. He can't change your soul. He can speak with you, explain to you, but cannot make you learn or more importantly understand anything, as making you understand takes away your free will. Jesus had to physically suffer every pain so he could understand it.