[quote=So Boerd] Yeah, there is a series, which at any time may begin with a God who has existed infinitely.Anyway, that would be when he made our bodies. Our essences are co-eternal.When it says beginning and the end, I don't know what that means, since I certainly don't think he is going to end us at some point. I will look into it, but if you are basing your entire criticism on a rhetorical phrase, I think you know the argument is weak. [/quote] ... What? The entire book of revelations is literally doomsday prophecy about how God is going to end the world. Four horsemen of the apocalypse and so on, and how it'll be reborn into some kind of new agey hippie heaven thing. There is nothing in the bible that says your soul is co-eternal to god, or that there are any creators who made god, and in fact, god states he is the first, the beginning. That means there was none before him. Unless he's lying. Or the author made... Another plot hole... :sun Your supposition is merely that: Supposition. Nothing in your own holy book supports it and we both know that. [quote=ActRaiserTheReturned] /sarcasmYou're right, if there was a God, you would finally shut the farg up! /kiddingLook. There is a sense of humility that must come before the trueness of the spirit may enter into the Human condition. If you don't have the humility to let God from what you already know, it is unlikely you will ever stop asking why because you don't admit that you do know all you need to accept God into yourself. [/quote] There is no sense of humility in telling someone that if they don't worship a genocidal maniac that they will go into a place and burn for all eternity. :lol Would you worship Hitler? No? Why not? How about Kim Jong, he says he is a divine being who can kill you with his mind, will you not worship him? Why not? The difference between him and God is that at least he physically exists. He already has more credibility than god does on that fact alone, and we both know he's a complete looney. [quote=So Boerd] Just looked into it, it means God is eternal, which I already agree with. [/quote] Yes. That's part of its meaning.