He was trying to think of how his father beat Venom before. Yah he had none of the usual methods. No loud sounds, fire, or anything. He could try and tire john out. Would any of those even bother John? Last he checked the original wasn't white... Jack managed to avoid the webs thanks to the his spider sense. The punches were not so lucky. One connected and sent back skidding towards the woods. John had hit him when he was turned away. He fired a few webs to get John's attention. He acted like he was running away.