This is becoming too much text for me to answer timely on my phone, but I will focus in on one aspect and return to your biblical citations later. [quote] I never dodged it, that is the minimum. Beating Science, even if Religion is get's some kind of evidence I'm not suddenly going to convert when Science still has even more evidence. Especially when said religious proof doesn't even point towards a specific god.[/quote]. Ladies and gentlemen, if I ever talk about the Holy Apostolic Ecumenical Church of Science, this is the example want you to think of. Belief in a God in no way contradicts science. There are plenty of Nobel Laureates who believe in a God. This God you believe in could be anything you want, as consistent with Science as you want. So I will ask the question more directly. What PIECES of evidence do you require. List and describe them.