[quote=Halo]
This. For me, there's a difference between arguing and debating/discussing. Arguing is about proving your point, about winning. Debate and discussion is about presenting your view in contrast to someone else's, and seeking to understand their view, possibly allowing it to change your own. It's about seeking a common truth and mutual understanding - yes, you're trying to progeny your point, but for the sake of their understanding and yours, not just "to win". I feel like the conversations I had with you the other day are a good example, mdk - we realised we disagreed, or were misinterpreting one another, and called it quits, having found the others' perspective interesting, if not the same as our own. I'd never quite thought about the cultural unity of the US that way until you mentioned it - I'd always thought of it as very decentralised and as varying from state to state.
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Then why do you always want me to be wrong? Or do you just want to argue all the time?