[quote=Dervish]But seriously guys, you aren't accomplishing anything by debating if God exists or not because nobody's changing their minds. Agree to disagree and move on.[/quote] I am here to debate and learn. If we avoid this topic at school, and we avoid it at social gatherings, and we avoid it in the workplace and only ever see opinionated people who will not change their minds argue about it on T.V, then why can we not discuss it here, on the internet. I understand you might have seen many God debates, but as you may have noticed, this is a first for me here, and I am quite interested in learning more and in contributing what I believe I know. We need to end this custom of 'argument for the sake of argument and debate for the sake of debate.' I am here to debate, and I am here to learn from it and change my mind, and I am hoping people are just as open as I am in that regard. I will personally be the first to end it if I feel it is going nowhere. Edit: I just realised that I have suddenly lost interest in this debate. I have too many other things to focus on, it was a mistake to join, but I couldn't help it :dreamy Maybe I'll start a proper debate about this and we can continue this some other time. Adios.