[quote=Brovo] I mean I guess to wrap this thread up in a neat bow tie since it looks like it's finally going to kick the bucket is I've repeatedly stated throughout this thread that I don't... Honestly... Give a rat's ass what a person believes. If a person wants to believe that a pedophile rode a unicorn into heaven, they can believe that, I don't really care so long as the person themselves is a decent person. Everything I've argued here has been pretty much for the fuck of it, for fun, devil's advocacy and all that.I mean jeez, I've been posting Star Wars clips for god's sake, I should hope that at least would give away my complete lack of giving a fuck for making a really monumental argument. I mean if I really wanted to argue anything, I'd stay specific: I'd pick one thing and I would stick to it like a fly sticks to shit.At the end of the day the same rights and freedoms that guarantee someone's right to believe whatever fantastical thing they want to believe, protects my right to not believe a damned thing. That is what matters most to me and it's the real reason why I advocate for a secular government: In this way, the government is unable to go for or against religion. That means it cannot make laws that support Christianity, atheism, or Islam, or any other religion on the planet. That should remain purely a personal domain, whatever makes you feel comfortable, whatever makes the most sense, go with it, and be a good person.Beyond that, nothing else matters to me concerning religion and government, or religion and law, or religion in general usually, unless you want to debate the philosophical side of it, which I find intriguing and usually take a grey world mentality on.That's all really. I hope that clarifies it for anyone who thought this thread was actually a serious exchange from me at least. Alright Dervish? [/quote] I am satisfied. Just keep in mind that you might think you're joking, but everyone else might think you're throwing fuel in the fire. Hell, that's why I thought I should say something. When something has been going on for 12 pages and getting increasingly snippy, it's probably not a bad idea to take a step back and let things cool down. C'mon guys, group hug and beer. Let's go hate on something productive, like Donald Trump. Fuck that guy.