[quote=GreivousKhan] That could work, actually... though the fact valenwood cannot cut down their trees and all their wood is imported makes over sea trade less then profitable and a waste of a valuable resource for little real gain. maybe through second hand or just on the Morrowind side, but it would seem a very one sided agreement in favor of the Dark Elves, as currently their kind of dead in the water. Then there's the fact the Dumar are even 'more' arrogant then the High Elves. The fact they don't have their own Thalmar, it causes many people to forget that. (to be honest I'm almost shocked they don't have their own version of the Thalmar.) Anyway it just seems quite random to me, like the redguards getting chummy with the Argonians. [/quote] Indeed, but maybe it's a sort of investment idea? Like they are trying to build good relations in the hopes it will pay off for them later? And yes, in many ways they are. I think they don't have their own Thalmor because the houses are arguing amongst themselvse all the time... That and the Dagoth Ur thing... then the tribunal who needed to maintain control and were vying to get the heart so they could regain their power... the Empire came along and gave them a nice little treaty, but this obviously prevented them from stomping around... then the red mountain erupted... Seems like it's really luck that stops them xD