[quote=Jangel13] except my bosmer are pacifists we don't like to go to open war for the obvious reasons under our green pact, we will defend our forests to the very death but open conflict is generally avoided [/quote] Indeed, but they also seem interested in coin, no? The Thalmor aren't exactly going to be happy with Valenwood trading with Morrowind, let alone Elsweyr. I might not be able to convince them to go to war against the Thalmor on Summerset, but hopefully I can convince them to try and kick the Thalmor out of Valenwood. Phase one is the most vital because if the Wood elves kick the Thalmor out and become independent, then the Thalmor is dealt a demoralising and humiliating blow, as well as forcing them back tactically so the forces can be focussed on invading Summerset and wont be worn from fighting in Valenwood Well, it doesn't help that the Aldmeri Dominion got turned into a punching bag. Elsweyr drove them out, Skyrim killed their Justicars and as a result of the shift of the throne in cyrodiil the Empire has practically been fighting a secret war (Supplying Elsweyr rebels, not obeying the White Gold Concordat, etc.) They are hard to take seriously when they are getting shoved around. Guess people don't like obeying Elven Supremacists, I wonder why :lol: