[quote=Jangel13] no read my cs we are traders so we have trade with the high elves, but we are allies with elswyer. tension between us and the high elves are strained and anything could tip the balance. we do whatever we can to avoid conflict so we use the money we earn from trading to get our allies of elwyer and morrowind to have powerful friends so we wouldn't have to worry about a open war [/quote] Ya, that's kind of what I was asking, why are relations strained? o.o Mibbit: The green pact would seem to make Valenwood a poor province for becoming a mercantile nation, can't trade grains or foodstuffs, they live need all their cattle and live stalk, lumber is out of the question, and Skyrim arguably has better furs.