[quote=Raineh Daze]
Not viewing mind controlling the entire world to fit YOUR desires as acceptable is a good start.
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i wasn't saying it was good, i said his desires were good in HIS mind. that is grey. Madara was not always a villain, he was a good person during the early parts of his life. if he was a one dimensional villain then he would have been bad from the get go and his only reasons for his plan were to rule the world. I am also going to point out that Pain is a very grey villain, and that you can somewhat sympathize with him. he lost his parents in a war that had nothing to do with his country besides the fact that the Great Nations were using it as a battleground to keep their homes safe, and he shows that the bigger nations needed war to keep their systems working, as he said it was a cycle of war and hatred. 

in our world there are people who call themselves Freedom Fighters and kill innocent people because in their mind they are vanquishing evil. the fact is, most people who commit horrible acts believe that what they are doing is right. the concept of right and wrong is a human thing and is all up to interpretation. i'm not saying what the villains were doing was right, i am just pointing out that their intentions were grey. if you want black and white then Hiden and kakuzu were the black and white villains.

i find it funny how we got into a philosophical discussion on a Naruto rp lol