[quote=whizzball1] I'm talking about Martyn. [/quote] I'm talking about these two. Martyn is fine, honestly. Only one person in our froup is realistically capable of killing him, and he shares the sane name. Isaac, on the other hand, could go in the blink of an eye.[quote=Spiritblitz] Yes, I did get pushed into the deep end. And my situation is way different than most parents. [/quote] Yeah. For most, it cuts off, like, just after the four foot end starts to get deeper. You know, the underwater ramp that leads to the deep end? Just a couple feet past that.