Kratesis

Warhammer 40k: Enemy Without, Enemy Within - an 'Ecclesiarchal' RP [Mature][High Casual/Low Advanced]

@Andreyich I just thought I'd ask if you intended to pick Vitruvia? If not she will go after transportation for the Inquisitor.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Kratesis If you learned how to debate from reading T_D posts I suggest you quit while you're ahead.

@Dynamo Frokane

That seems a little uncalled for.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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Alright knock yourself out, lets hear some rational arguments.

@Dynamo Frokane

There you go with those goalposts again Dynamo. And I can't help but notice you haven't answered my question.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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That the implications of politics are serious, that was my position all along, like I said I probably didn't specify enough, but that's the claim you cant argue against.

@Dynamo Frokane

Why not? I'm curious here as I feel I can argue against (or for) any claim I want. The moon is made of blue cheese? No problem. The President is a reptile in a human suit? Sure thing. True communism has never been tried? You got it lol. What makes this particular claim so special that I cannot argue against it?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I was in that generation of people who started paying attention to politics in the Bush years. Like a lot of people from conservative backgrounds at that time, I identified as a libertarian for a while, and voted libertarian in 2008.

My process of moving to the left was driven by my experience, and the experiences of those I grew up around, in the aftermath of the recession, so I would consider that to be the formative factor in my political opinions. The social stuff seems secondary imho, though I'm sure that's largely because as a white straight dude I didn't have much invested in the social justice movement to get into it, and I'm not nearly autistic enough for white nationalism.

@Vilageidiotx

The parallels here are uncanny. I became political during the Bush years as well and also came from a conservative background. But I became your typical 'college liberal' though that meant something different back in those days. There was a lot less blue hair and Tumblr didn't even exist. I was strongly opposed to the religious right, which had just swept Bush to power a second time. Most of my political activities during that time was largely oriented around fighting for gay marriage. (Victory!)

I can't say that I even moved right. I still support all the things I supported when I was young. I just happen to believe in a number of conservative moral and economical principles as well. Somewhere during all of this I encountered a libertarian who became a mentor of mine and convinced me of the truth of a number of the libertarian positions. The recession had a tremendous effect on me and I re-thought a number of my positions and took a much closer look at both globalization and immigration (which I had previously seen as purely a force for good) as well as automation. In some ways I became more liberal (for example I support universal basic income) but in others I abandoned the purely libertarian position and begin to oppose open borders and free trade agreements (though I don't oppose every open border or every trade agreement).

In the end I became the Frankenstein monster of politics, both far left and far right simultaneously lol.

Anyway, I shall cut this wall of text short but the parallels were interesting.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Kratesis When I said politics was important I was referring to the implications, maybe I should have been clear. The goalposts remain in the same place. And I take it you dont have an argument against that position.

@Dynamo Frokane

Against what position?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dynamo Frokane First you say that politics is serious. But that isn't the case, many people have been having a laugh about politics since far before either of us were born. Now you say the implications of politics is serious and you expect me to run down that goalpost too.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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Politics is a largely serious thing.

@Dynamo Frokane

Obviously not lol.

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The differences in /r/politics and T_D is T_D is funny.

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