Lone Wanderer

Head of State [19th Century Nation RP]

Interested and being a Great Power sounds great.

Nation Name: The Deltoran Republic
Head of State: Prime Minister Alfred Vaugrenard

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Writing papers for uni has been sapping my time, but just to confirm, I'm still interested and maintaining a claim to the British Empire.

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Oh, in this case, I wrote up the IC post draft before you joined. But in said draft, and present IC post, I implied that the British made Sarawak a direct colony by buying it from the reigning Rajah, which in turn was opposed by his Crown Prince. This happened IRL after World War II, but in my headcanon (which again, was established before you took an interest in Britain), it happened earlier and the British paid less because of their losses in the Great War, making it extortionate.

But if you want, we can retcon it; again, I was acting before you joined, and drafted the post before I knew you were interested in taking Britain.

@Letter Bee

Nah it's good by me. I've been told I couldn't have kept those colonies anyway so this creates a good history I can work with as to why they inevitably broke away.

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@Lone Wanderer, Oh, forgot to mention, but I established Sarawak as being ill-treated by the British to the point where even its 'White Rajahs' have been alienated.

@Letter Bee

What are you saying I did that made them so alienated?

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@The Wyrm Hi I'm playing the remnants of the British Empire. That claim I will note however only currently extends to the UK itself and to a number of small holdings across the globe. If you wanted to you could certainly play one of her past colonies or dominions, either one that broke away as we know her African holdings and India did, or perhaps as Canada or Australia whose fates are up in the air until somebody takes control of them and creates a history for them.

British Holdings

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@BingTheWing Hey hey, I wasn't trying to stop you from playing Australia. You certainly could and they'd be relevant. Just your current history of British tyranny doesn't mesh well with my UK. If you want to be prominent in the Pacific you could say you worked with Westminster in getting your independence, joined the Commonwealth and formed an Australasian Confederation or something owning Australia, NZ and other pacific holdings such as British Malaysia. Alternatively you could have sought relations with Japan or the US if you wanted Australia to cut completely from Britain and expanded with their support.

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@Dinh AaronMk Here’s what I’ve written so far:

My Hider

Australian Federation

The Russian withdrawal in 1917 only served to strengthen British morale. It poured all of its resources into the Western Front, launching offensive after offensive into Austro-Hungarian lines, landing boot after boot onto Ottoman beaches, and firebombing the German colonies in Kamerun. All of this, of course, was being increasingly done with colonial lives. The manpower of the British isles was slowly being diminished, and in its place was spilt the blood of the sons of the British Raj, the Canadian commonwealth, the Egyptian protectorate, and the Land Down Under.

The UK was being quickly drained of its resources in iron and gold, and was looking to its colonies for more. From 1919 to 1924, the British carried out what would be forever known as the Rape of Australia. Farms were seized by the colonial government, fathers and sons were separated from their families and sent to Europe and the mines, and the local democratic parliament shut down and authoritarian rule instituted. The 1920 Melbourne riots and subsequent massacre only served to solidify the iron fist of the British government over the helpless Aussie settlers.

The Australian poor were rendered powerless, stripped of their right to suffrage and the might of their labor. The only citizens who survived the Rape with their former status intact were the Australian elite - the coal barons, the gentrified landowners, and the stockbrokers who were the middlemen between the British colonizers and their helpless assets. This special class of men therefore recognized that it fell to them to liberate their own country. One of these men was Sir Willard Clovis, the London-born owner of several iron mines in the Northern Territory. At first glance, Clovis would seem to be the last man you would expect to betray the empire.

But Clovis would not forget, especially after he had seen his son die in the war and the fruits of his labor go to killing more like him. In Sydney in 1920, he organized the Sydney Mineral Coalition, his new secret underground independence movement masquerading as a mine owners’ union. Rallying other dissatisfied Australian business owners, the SMC amassed small arms, funds, and other assets in secret to combat the colonial government. The movement grew southward, and Melbourne and Canberra also responded to the call. Then the masses were educated - secret meetings were held by mine owners at night to preach to their workers of the injustices committed by the devils from the continent. The revolution grew.

The glorious climax of the unrest occured in 1925 in the bombing of the General Post Office in Sydney. While the British constabulary instituted martial law along the coasts, guerilla warfare commenced in the outback. Several ‘armies’, one for each federal district, steadily marched coastward. In 1926, after more than twenty months of fighting, the British colonial government agreed to lessen its seizures of resources and privatized several large enterprises in the Treaty of Canberra. This sated the rebels for a while, but Australian nationalism had already taken root.

Sir Clovis and the rest of the SMC were exiled to the Shetland Islands, but their revolutionary influence lingered. Free from the iron grip of the British, local enterprises sprang to life, and as the British war machine clankered down in Europe, were more in a position to demand more autonomy.

I was expecting something along the lines of Spain for Britain, seeing as the former lost a lot of its colonial influence after the War of the Spanish Succession

@BingTheWing

I'm going to be honest, this history doesn't particularly suit what I had planned for Britain. The wartime government signing off on the Rape of Australia, which as has been said is a nation of clear British heritage, would have been political suicide, especially if the current democratic Australian government was still loyal and active as a wartime ally. The dire state of the war would have been a cause to rally the British Empire together, if there was any tighter controls being placed by Britain over her dominions and colonies it would most likely have been in response to revolts and unrest already present rather then needlessly expending wartime resources to effectively annex already loyal parts of the Empire.

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@Lone Wanderer I was thinking violent colonial revolt

Actually since you would have used a lot of the colonies’ manpower and resources in the War they would be pretty pissed with you already

@BingTheWing

Nuuu, my Aussie pals.

Okay, so when within the 31 years since the war are you thinking this revolt happened? If the native population took it into their own hands to revolt and officially break away from the British Empire/Commonwealth, I imagine it was closer towards the war then the current date while the memory was still fresh and Westminster still held some sway in the governance of Australia. Unless you intend to have some kind of socialist/authoritarian uprising after the RP's start? In which case by then Australia would be extremely autonomous of Westminster and probably only joined by the Commonwealth of Nations.

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I have imagined that the British lost control of Belize when the depression began and Belize came to the Federation, requesting to be annexed.

@The Spectre

Okay we can run with that, we could say that Federation-backed rebels during the war overthrew the colonial administration in Belize, subsequently founded a pro-Federation government there and swiftly applied to join the Federation of Central America.

@The Spectre

I don't think I remember giving you approval just yet. So Belize is still up in the air.

@Dinh AaronMk

Oh I haven't actually been approved to be the UK yet either so I maybe overstepping by acting as if I speak for them here. To finish my NS I do need to work out a history with the colonies though.

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Well, we would have to talk then because I have already took it while you were busy fighting the war (in 1922). Hope we can come to some sort of deal.

@The Spectre

Ah I see. I'm not against working out a deal though I would appreciate that you do atleast run it by me before claiming to have seized territories from me and presenting it as an unquestionable fact. Regardless, let's work something out. I suppose it depends on how exactly your nation came to occupy Belize, did your army simply march into it and annex the territory or did you envisage something else?