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The world itself would never be the same. A man with the power to bring not just Europe, but possibly all of the planet, to its knees. The German Reich would sweep across Europe bringing with it the death of millions. Adolf Hitler would destroy everything in his path, and those who did not follow him would fall. The only country left in Western Europe that was not with him from the beginning was the United Kingdom, and that was only because Hitler did not feel like a complete invasion of the island was worth it when the rest of Europe was ripe for the taking. This was, except for the Soviets. Instead of invading them he would strike a deal with Stalin, stating that the straights of the Bosphorus would separate their two great Nations. East and West Constantinople would become the barrier between Communism and Fascism. The fall of Turkey would be quick, and would be the final act of World War 2. Hitler would create many Puppet states instead of completely subjugating all of the conquered territory, and those nations that where his allies at the start of the war (Such as Finland, Nationalist Spain, and Italy) would remain mostly independent. In the east, the Japanese would not attack the United States, instead, they would continue their conquest of the rest of Asia, and as the United Kingdom would draw a peace with Germany, they would hand over India to the Japanese, and the "Indian Empire" was born, being a puppet of the Japanese. Australia and New Zealand would still be granted independence, and they would be allies with the United States. The United States would not get involved with the conflict, instead they decided to stay isolationist and prepare for the worst, which would not come. The United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, South Africa, and Democratic Rebel groups would make up what would be left of the Allies, a group that would eventually evolve into "The Western Freedom Alliance"(WF For Short). The Soviets would create the "Moscow Pact", a group of Communist states that would attempt to spread their ideology in other countries around the world. In 1960, the Axis would split over differences, causing the Japanese Empire and the German Reich to form their own alliances. The Germans would form the "Alliance of Nationalist States" (ANS For Short) and those nations that where puppets of Japan would form "The Eastern Imperial States" (EIS for short), thus dividing the world into four groups vying for power. Nearly all of the planet would be engulfed in this Cold War, with the amount of Neutral countries being countable on both hands. While conflict has not broken out between the Great Alliances since the end of the war, it is obvious that now, on the first day of 2017, conflict is still as likely as it was when the war ended. No matter what happens, it seems that this powder keg of Earth is willing to explode, possibly setting the sun of the Great Human Race.
Welcome to The Great Alliances, an Alternate History NRP taking place on January 1st, 2017. Just to preface this, the scenario is not meant to be completely accurate. I understand that the chances of anything that I said happening is incredibly small, but I felt like since Alternate History NRPs seem to be so view in number I thought I'd throw my own idea in the hat. Anyway, regarding the specifics, this NRP is going to be character based, with Population and Military size being the only real stats in the NRP. I also decided to still allow the creation of Nations, not limiting you to a few choosable ones.
Nation Creation shall go like this, there are multiple Nations who exist from the start, and in the hider below is the list.
Those nations that exist from the start are all given rankings. Superpower would be the highest, Power would be second, Regional Power would be third, and Unranked would be the lowest. These ranks basically provide a hierarchy, with the Superpower being the leader of the group. The two Neutral countries are both powers, and all four of the groups are attempting to lead them to join theirs, hoping to tip the scales in the eventual war that will break out.
Back to Nation Creation, if you pick one of the already created nations, you can still change things about it. I shall provide a map below where you can put in the specific territory that nation owns, thus adding another creation to it. If you decide to create a nation, the process will be a bit larger, but you will have the opportunity to decide what faction you are in, along with what power status you are (No Creation of Superpowers shall be allowed, but anything else is allowed). You will also be allowed to create Rebel groups, which shall be based inside other nations and they will attempt to turn that nation into a certain different type of government. Rebel groups in power shall most likely be ranked below Unranked Nations, but they can be enough to change the way a conflict is going if they are strong enough.
Anyway, lets get on with the Map and the actual creation process.
(Regarding the Map, you do not have to use someone else's, just put in your territory and we'll know what areas not to claim, though if someone would be willing to put everyone's nations on the map that would be great)
Map 1 (More Precise, but will take longer to claim everything):
Map 2 (Less Precise, easier to paint everything):
Technology will be exactly what we have now, because the NRP takes place January 1st, 2017. I made this decision because I don't want this NRP to devolve into a discussion about how advanced we could of gotten in X amount of time.
Now then, time for the applications.
And here is a Sample Application (and by sample I mean my app) for people to use as a base if needed)
I'd like to reserve Germany if its not been taken already.
If it has, ill be the red menace. Where Putin extreme has taken over.
I honestly do not know enough about modern Japan to do it justice but being a blue water super power sounds so much fun.
Okay then, great. It hasn't been claimed yet.
I was wondering could I be a facist rebel group in the US or something?
Yes, you could.
Gonna just throw a basic app as a place holder.
Pretty good so far.
Banned for having less than 50 posts
Banned for having incredibly graphic imagery.
I completed my application by the way. I'd also just like to say that if one more person voices interest I'll start the OOC.
@RWDS
What's the policy on interwar territory changes? For example, could Colombia annex Panama?
It could work. You'd probably have to work something in about why the US wouldn't come the aid of Panama, but if you could do that it would work.
National Orthodox Union of Hellenic States
(Or Just Call It Greece)
Group Allegiance (WF, Moscow Pact, ANS, EIS, Or Neutral):
Alliance of Nationalist States
Nation Rank (Superpower, Power, Regional Power, or Unranked):
Power
Population:
45 Million People
Flag/Banner:
Territory:
(The Blue Area In Southern Europe)
Army Size:
1.2 Million People.
Other Military Information (Not mandatory):
The Greek Military would pride itself in the way it mixed Advancement and Army Size in their military. Being right next to the People's Republic of Turkey, one of the strongest Nations in the Moscow pact, has turned that area into one of the main places where World War 3 breaking out is possible. Control of the Bosporous is split between the Moscow Pact and the ANS, turning Greece into an important ally to the German Reich.
Culture:
Greek culture is extremely typical of what the region had since Heraclius officially made Eastern Rome "Greek". They are Orthodox Christians, with a decent sized Muslim minority because of some of the Turks left inside Constantinople. When Hitler gave Constantinople (and some northern territory) to the Greeks, it would end up creating a slight problem for the Greeks. A muslim minority would exist in Western Constantinople, a very large minority. So the Greeks would strike up a deal with the Soviets, who at this time still had Eastern Turkey occupied. All Turks currently in Greece would be allowed to go to the East without fear of getting killed, and all Orthodox Christians currently in the East could come to Greece without fear of being killed. This would work, and Constantinople would end up becoming Majority Greek once again after people started moving there in large amounts. The Patriarch of Constantinople would become the 2nd most powerful man in Christianity, with the Pope being the only person who seemed to be more important than him.
History:
As Hitler would march into Greece, he would not come as a conquerer, he would be a liberator. He would come in and state that for loyalty, the Greeks would be given back Western Constantinople, the jewel of their history, one of the Holiest places in all of Christendom. They would accept the deal, as long as they remained Subjects of the Third Reich until the war ended, they would be given Western Constantinople.
"My Brothers, I want you to understand that I feel your pain. Nearly 500 years ago you lost your land, you lost what made you, you. Years of Ottoman Hegemony destroyed so many other cultures, but you all survived. There is a reason for this, because of your will, because of your power, you where able to keep your culture for all of those years of Oppressive rule, and when you finally got independence, you did it through a war, it was not a gift, and you where able to defeat the Ottoman Superpower and give the Greeks a home again. 100 Years later the Ottomans would slaughter your people, along with the Armenians, and I remember, and now it is time for your revenge. As long as you remain loyal, and give me forces for an invasion, you shall have Constantinople back from the grasps of the invasive people. The Hagia Sophia, The City of the World's desire, thousands of years of history, shall be given to you again.
-Adolf Hitler, June 27th, 1941. In Athens
This speech would ignite the Greek people behind a common cause, and they would become some of the best forces the German Reich would have. While the reclaiming of Constantinople would happen 3 years later, the Greeks would continue to fight with the Germans. By 1942 most of the war would have moved on to being a battle in Asia for complete Japanese control over the region. The end of the war in 1944 would see Hitler gift the Greeks Western Constantinople, Cyprus, and some slightly more northern territories right above their country originally. The ascension of the Greeks into a territorial power would slightly anger the Italians, who still had the goal of reclaiming former Roman territory.
The United Axis Front would split in 1960, seeing the ANS and EIS both be birthed into existence. The Greeks would join the ANS, understanding that this alliance with the Germans would most likely continue to keep Greece safe from any outside threats, such as the members of the Moscow Pact. The Cold War would escalate to another level in the 1970s, with the Soviets expanding their influence far across the world with rebellions, thus permanently changing the outlook of the conflict, making it a bunch of proxy wars. The Communist rebellion in the Peloponnesus would last a year, before the Greek army would completely make it their goal to eradicate the Communist rebel troops. From there, the conflict would be taken to the mountains. Ever so often attacks would happen inside Greece, but the armed rebellion was stopped.
The 80s would be filled with tension over the devolving relations of the WF and the Moscow Pact, with the ANS being in between the two. The Greeks would make deals with the WF, despite the German demands that they do not. With this deal, in an event of conflict between the WF and Moscow Pact, WF troops would be defended by Greek troops in the Bosporous. This deal would stack the odds in the favor of the WF, and by 88 the Moscow Pact would back down, and the Greeks would destroy the treaty, by the demands of the Germans.
The 90s would be incredibly interesting regarding international events. A pandemic of multiple viruses across India and China would weaken the EIS, causing Japanese and German relations to normalize to make sure that the Japanese would have a backup plan in case of a Soviet invasion. Greek and Japanese forces would do multiple training exercises, exchanging secrets, and planning for the possible scenario of Germany's collapse. In 97, two rebellions would be ignited in the Korean Peninsula, one funded by the Moscow Pact and the other funded by the WF. Greek troops would be an important part in stopping the rebellion, and by 00 it would be crushed.
The 00s would be dominated by two events. The civil war in China, and the declining of the world's economy. September 11th, 2001 would see communist rebels blow up a Skyscraper in Shanghai and a Japanese embassy in Beijing. These events would turn China into a battleground for years, and would see the ANS and EIS work together to make sure Moscow Pact forces are not able to expand. The ANS and EIS would be able to hold off Communist rebels, but when the WF officially decide to fight against the rebels the conflict would end by 2006, after 900,000 people would end up dead. Greek forces would be a major part in the Siege of Shanghai, helping defend the city from the Communist rebels.
The destructions of thousands of factories would see the decline of Chinese goods being sent across the planet, causing the costs for goods to go up, and making people poorer. The event would end up helping the Greeks, who would turn Western Constantinople into one of the biggest industrial cities on earth, and by the time of economic recover across the planet the Greeks had been fine 1 year earlier. By 2011, majority of the planet had recovered from the economic issues, and two new Industrial Powerhouses were formed. The Indians would surpass the Chinese in goods produced, and the Greeks would create large amounts of luxury goods, and they would be known for their mix of Japanese and German engineering.
The 2010s would be mostly a peaceful time. No huge conflict would break out, other than a Democratic Rebellion in Kurdistan that would be shut down down, and the near collapse of the Hellenic bank in October 2016. The Hellenic Bank would end up recovering by December, and another huge economic crisis was prevented.
Rivals:
People's Republic of Turkey: Both nations hold contempt for each other for multiple reasons. While being in two different factions doesn't help, the fact that the Greeks now own Western Constantinople doesn't help with the diplomacy, and the thought that the Turks murdered hundreds of thousands of Greeks during World War 1 most certainly doesn't escape them. The two countries are the most likely place for World War 3 to bring out, and if it does, the war will be bloody.
Nationalist Spain: While both countries are in the ANS, they both attempt to be known as the Second Strongest and the Mediterranean power. Both of their militaries are quite powerful, and if a conflict was to ever break out between the two, it would probably tear the ANS apart.
Italy: The Greeks and the Italians are not allies, even though they are in the same faction. With the same issue as Spain, but on a larger scale, nations have territorial gains in major Mediterranean islands, and both wish to continue that conquest. A battle between Italy and Greece would most likely see Spain and Finland joining the Italian side, Egypt and France joining the Greeks, and the Germans attempting to salvage what was left of the Faction.
Government Structure:
Greece is a Multi-Party Single-Ideology Republic. There exist 4 Legal parties, the Orthodox Nationalist Union, a party that focuses more on expanding Christendom then continuing their alliance with Papists and Protestants. The Golden Dawn would be a "moderate" fascist party, willing to allow more personal freedoms then others, but would still be extremely nationalist. The Hellenic National Socialist Party would be much more closer to Hitler's ideals then other ones. Saying that the only way that they'll continue their survival inside the ANS is to be closer to the original Natsoc Ideals. The Final political party is the Justinian Party, who wishes to bring upon the rebirth of the Eastern Roman Empire and the eventual recreation of the Monarchy.
Those who are elected Chancellor serve 10 year terms, and they can serve an unlimited amount of terms. The Senate is a group of 200 people. Most typical Senate elections have well over 1000 people run, but only the top 200 get places in the Senate. Currently, the Orthodox Nationalist Union is the current party of the chancellor in Greece, with Heracius Decasiu is the current Chancellor. The Senate is controlled by the Golden Dawn, and they are going to try and take control of the government come next election.
Other:
The Greeks, unlike most nations in the ANS, would be more religiously nationalist then anything, with the eventual goal of reclaiming Antioch from the clutches of the Communists, and eventually even conquering Jerusalem. They see themselves as the 2nd strongest country in the ANS, but it isn't really obvious who is stronger out of Spain, Italy, France, and Greece.
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This makes me glad, typically modern NRPs devolve into laser gun fights for no particular reason.
Yeah, even though I could've gone and said "We are like 100 years more advanced because Nazi Super Technology" I decided against it, I'd rather not have Space Conflicts and Laser fights get in the way of everything.
@RWDS
Question, what rough technological level are we looking at?
I'd also like to know about protectorates and how I should treat them relative to my nation(mainly the Philippines)
Technology wise, we are looking at around what we have now, because it starts in 2017.
At the most, we might be able to create slightly larger computer storage systems because of Nazi advancements, but nothing much larger.
Regarding protectorates, it depends. If you gave them independence sometime earlier in the timeline, then they shall be claimable. If you made them a puppet state, they shall act as independent but you can control them as needed, but someone can claim them just like they could claim any other country. If you kept them as territory of the US, you can treat it as you would normally treat a territory.
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