Absolis

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@Mtntopview
Dark Energon, from what I can find on it, only affects mechanical beings.

@Absolis
During that battle, that was indeed a weakness. Although his eyes can still withstand tank cannon level attacks. It would certainly be amusing to see Cyano trying to kill Apocalypse, although in a direct physical confrontation I doubt she would last long.

@thewizardguy

At max augmentation she can move as fast as apocalypse. Though it puts a ton of strain on her when she switches out for psychic shielding. Though she is only 3/4 as strong. And I developed a little scale for how many punches she could take

1: broken bones. Still able to fight relatively well. Powers through pain

2: internal organs damaged. Internal bleeding at dangerous levels. Dizziness, nausea, slowing of motor functions.

3: internal organs destroyed. Brain smashed against the side of the skull opposite to apocalypse. Bones turned to dust. Death.

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I'm also going to assue ultrons body would be made out of the same mix as captain Americas shield. Since he did get quite a bit of vibranium, but with its rarity I doubt enough to fully build himself a full body without something thrown into the mix.

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@Absolis
The problem is that vibranium's strength is variable. Captain America's shield has taken damage from blows from Mjolnir and held, and Mjolnir has enough force to crush moons. That's like a hundred nukes to the face. And yet this island was blown up with relatively standard explosives. So maybe it's because cap's shield is a vibranium titanium alloy, but it seems the strength of vibranium is as inconsistent as Superman's strength.

@thewizardguy

I think it would be good to go with the vibranium that can be destroyed with normal explosives, as it gives a nice parallel to Saber Cloth.

Which can be summed up as
Put vibranium in a 10 million ton explosion, and everything is destroyed

Put Saber cloth in a 10 million ton explosion, and the person is destroyed, while the Saber cloth floats away on the wind.

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@Absolis
Apocalypse's skin can't be hardened, logically. It's described in the comics as being denser and heavier than lead, and yet softer as well. It defies the standard laws of physics, but so does everything.

@thewizardguy

That's an interesting little tidbit to know. Though theres still the fact that Cyano knows about the fact that his eye is soft and leads directly to his brain. Thanks to the ethereal recording the battle between the two.

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That is true... though, if Cyano could gather some, get away from apocalypse, and then condense the skin into something much harder it would be more then enough. But if it's soft, then just picking raw apocalypse skin up probably wouldn't pierce now that I think about it.

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Whaaaale. Looks like Grimlock needs ... Help

@Mtntopview

Don't worry. Cyano knows some very nice people

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I will note that everything I say is just a theory.because I have an inexplicable need to explain what doesn't need explained so feel free to point out inconsistencies. I would prefer if you did so I can get the most accurate idea of what everything is like.

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Oh my. I can't wait until I get a computer. Then I can just make the game, and if it sells well maybe some YouTuber will explain stuff for me. This is too much work for something that hinges on alot of maybes, possiblys, and ifs.

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Alright, I'll explain it. If she could get chips off of Apocalypse, as long as they weren't too big she could use her Arch six shooter to fire them at apocalypse. And apocalypse could pierce apocalypse I'm sure, as you can't really adapt to yourself.

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@Absolis
Yeah, but anything that doesn't destroy his brain is pointless.

@thewizardguy

Trust me. Cyano knows a way