Awson

What was wrong with that clone sex thread?

Doivid said
This all seems like a bit much

True. What, with ISIS and everything...

What was wrong with that clone sex thread?

Overwatch said
I bet you just wanted to talk about clone sex. Do you have the hots for yourself, Awson? It's ok, because we all do.

^^ the exact kind of non-controversial posting that could have been had in that thread.

Nah, I was actually hoping to derail it to clone murder. You really don't want to ask why. :newkek

What was wrong with that clone sex thread?

Halo said
Such things are based on judgement, here. Of course it isn't perfectly rigorous; of course it's arbitrary. And, as I trust Sherly's judgement, I'm fine with that - the mods, although they also should not abuse the power they're given, should not be so caught up in red tape that they cannot take action when and if they deem it necessary.I don't think it was nearly so xenophobic as you think. If such a thread comes from someone we know, often we can be sure that it was simply badly thought-out or whatever. Coming from someone completely random, who has no reason to post such controversy here, who has no reason to value our opinions, and therefore (unlike an established member of the community) certainly no reason to skip over OT where that stuff actually belongs, it reads much more like a petty troll attempt. It's the same as you forgiving your friend for shoving you, whereas you wouldn't forgive a stranger. You assume your friend is having a rough time of it and forgive them because you know they're not usually like that. You don't - cannot - assume that about the stranger. In the same way, I would overlook it coming from you, or from Tripz, or Idle, or Smiral, or whoever. But from folk I know less well - say, Giygas or Derpestein, or, again, any of the regular Spam folk I simply don't know as well - I imagine it would get a similar response. Being part of Spam isn't anything to do with it, within itself.There is no fucking way that thread was legitimately posted in search of enlightening debate; everyone saw that, everyone was annoyed by it, and everyone - as individuals - posted to disagree with it, with the same autonomy as you have now expressed your disagreement. Just because you disagree with the majority does not make the majority - or, indeed, the mod who locked the thread - a mindless mob.

I know I can't possibly prove the whole mob thing, so I'll let that one go.

And I would disagree with the notion that it would get a similar response if Giygas or Derpestein posted it.

But I will go back and say that the closed thread really wasn't a controversy thread or a troll thread. I mean... it could have been. And it could have turned into one. But at face value it looks like a simple pointless, dumb thread to me. It looked like a jokingly fake controversy thread. And even if that wasn't his or per purpose in making it, maybe it should have been treated as one until proven otherwise.

EDIT: We get away with it because we have already proven we're not trolls. Perhaps it shouldn't be assumed that other people are.

EDIT: I believe I was looking for the term "benefit of the doubt." Which actual trolls usually shatter in their second or third post. But that first post tho.

I believe that sums up my feelings on the topic. So agree or disagree, whatever.

What was wrong with that clone sex thread?

It's not a controversial topic at all. It's just a silly topic. And there are loads of bullshit threads that spawn endless debate that get posted in Spam. You can't use that one as a reason, especially before any debating even begins.

My problem is that it looks like it Spam xenophopia and pseudo-mob mentality pushed a thread into the redzone when it had no business being locked yet.

Sure, it was a shitty thread, but it shouldn't have been locked. At most it should have been ignored, and at least didn't need to be filled with the standard "fuck off" x 5.

Disclaimer: I'm not even against getting rid of threads that are going to end badly or that and just plain shitty. I'm against it being so arbitrary.

Why don't people spangle things that aren't banners?

I'm not going to pretend that I know what spangle means.

Fuck you for making me feel inferior, though.

What was wrong with that clone sex thread?

Didn't meet Spam standards?

Plus that whole mob routine.

Srsly you guys.

knock knock, neo

I'll go

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Trying to pick a deck for post-rotation standard.

Cpt Toellner said
I am, also Temur, this thread is helping me out right now.

Sweet. I've been checking mtg threads in 4chan.org/tg/ for the past few weeks. There's a lot of tryhards and autists who don't believe in playing for fun, but you can pick up a lot of relevant knowledge by browsing. The most common piece of information being that Khans of Tarkir is the worst set ever

Also I read this Temur thread.