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I could be quite Koi with my suggestion, but... Chinese fighting fish will do.
Should I get the tin foil hats now, or after the booze?
This whole discussion about the lore would be more interesting I'd the characters in the world weren't made of cardboard, and moved as stiffly as cardboard too.
Casual is about on par to what it was before. You've got rose tinted sun glasses on, my friend.
Icarus said
Still waiting on your reply in the PM thread Brovo.


I am aware. No worries, it's coming.

Tempest said
Experiencing severe debilitating pain. Pushing update til tomorrow since taking medication to help with it is going to knock me out. Still off tomorrow, so I should be okay to do so. Sorry for all the delays, folks. *crawls pathetically to bed*


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So Boerd said
I believe this is what MDK is talking about.


Was arguing that regardless of whether he was a thing or not this was a person to person issue. God can come in later if you want, but not at this step. That's all.
O.o Even though I've on repeated occasion--often in the middle or end of a religious rant--gone ahead and said that I would never ant to see religion banned, that I don't hate the religious though I may hate their religion, and that I don't think the bible is factual or reliable for morals but has wonderful stories that have helped form a significant backbone for the rest of western literature--something which I adore?

Hmm.

Maybe I will make a new thread sometime then about this stuff in a more fascination type of light. If it really seems like all I do is bash it.

Sorry about typos. On phone.
You know... Everyone could be genuinely right about this issue you know. Some LGBT people think it's an LGBT message to them and for them, great, good for them. Some other people think differently, great, good for them.

Ultimately fiction is here to inform or to entertain through escapism and other methods. To say that one person's interpreted version of Greedo Shot First Frozen is superior to another by sheer measure of feeling is dumb. It's a dumb argument. This whole stupid disagreement is dumb, and the reason Disney isn't piping in at all is because it's getting people to look at it, which means more people will buy it, regardless of what the intended message may or may not have been.

... Period, really. I haven't seen the film, I don't care about it, but this crap keeps spamming up everywhere. It needs to stop. Nobody has to be right on this. It doesn't matter. Let everyone have their fucking cake already.
mdk said



No, really. Think about it. I've never called for you to be censored just because you're religious. In fact, back on the old guild, I was the one that made the thread asking people to explain why the were religious or not religious and called for everyone to respect each other, universally, then took genuine interest in each person's response, to try and better understand each perspective.

I don't agree with your religion, on several points, on multiple levels. By no stretch of the imagination does this make me intolerant of your religion, nor is it intolerance to openly question and criticize it, because I'm not dehumanizing you--that, is bigotry. It's not like I'm going around burning churches down and murdering people over their not believing the same things I do.

So Boerd said
In other words, . How in the world you managed to read "You have to agree with things to tolerate them" out of "If you already agree with it, you aren't tolerating it, so a tolerant society would tolerate what it doesn't agree with", I'll never know, but it's impressive.


No, you're still not getting it, but that's quite normal. Because you're arguing an extreme: That 100% tolerance must tolerate bigots somehow means we should now tolerate bigots is the very definition of insanity. You can use that very same logic to say that we should tolerate rape: Nobody is murdered, amirite?

Tolerance is by no measurable yardstick agreement. The two have nothing in common, if anything, they tend to be used for entirely different situations: Things I agree with I rarely feel the "need" to tolerate, I already agree with them. Things I disagree with test my tolerance, and I tend to have a fairly high tolerance at that.

Most people who proclaim tolerance, aren't, in the same measure that most of those same people will declare themselves good people without really thinking about it, or that something is immoral without thinking about it due to societal preconceptions, or misconstrue criticism for bullying. Why? Because most people don't understand who they are or what they want and seek some higher purpose in the universe and order to all the chaos. People generally are not comfortable with the thought that they will never truly be or know anything to its utmost degree and so they cling to positive sounding words and titles and then think that they are those things: Tolerant, loving, kind, strong, etc.

At the end of the day, take anything to an extreme, and you reach unreasonable deluded lunacy. 100% Tolerance doesn't produce a healthy society--agreed, but tolerance in and of itself does not generally get used for blatant bigotry and hate mongering, because bigotry and hate mongering are themselves acts of intolerance. They don't question something, they promote negative stereotypes and dehumanize people.

Also, understanding the dangers of something =/= bigotry. I can appreciate a lion and tolerate its existence (unless it's threatening my life obviously) without ignoring the fact that it is a wild animal that can and sometimes will kill me for food. I can even appreciate things like pigs and cows--I don't want them to suffer before I eat them, that's pretty normal for an empathetic species with intellectual capacity.
@Everyone: New wave of posts coming up this week. Y'all know the drill by now, eh'?
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