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Four and a half days without any sleep. Two of those without any food. I fell unconscious for a few hours at the end of it, I guess my body had decided that I was too stupid to manage my own affairs and decided to intervene on my behalf.

Nothing like soldier training that Dervish had (I didn't have to do physical activity in that, I probably wouldn't have made it that long), just poverty + mental instability waving its magic wand. He is definitely right about the hallucinations though.
A couple quick things I want to note I saw in the sheet on my phone. The bunkers are ruled autocratically, they would only have a very limited constitution. As well, no bunker was lost after the formulation of the council. There have been significant losses of life, but Detroit would not have been lost canonically.

Everything else is looking alright t a quick glance. Just remember: Very limited constitution that doesn't impede government operations, Bunker Detroit would not have been lost.
Maxim said
Eh, I don't think that 14/15 Character Slots includes my in progress character (sorry about taking so long, at a loss on the appearance. That and my character currently has all the personality of a brick :P). That said if Brovo wants to stick to the limit and Gourmet wants in, then I'd be willing to bow out.


You can still join. Both of you. My linits tend to be soft ones.besides, someone is going to die soon.
GourmetItalia said
Wow ... what an amazing and awesome story that wreaks of Fallout and Metro alike! Been reading up enough to say that it'd be an honor to collaborate and write with all of you peeps. Is there any room for one more writer/storyteller here?


Yes.

GreenGoat said
Oh, is the mechs people are piloting more towards the types or a from Warhammer 40K?Or maybe the type?


A mix of first mission and what Gat posted--scrappy to near-future sci-fi. They don't have separate operable hands by default though. Unless they have a powerfist...

@Zed: You're approved. Pick a mission that isn't central.

On that note, we still have a spot available, as RichterGotz is being dropped due to inactivity.

@Everyone: Expect an update over the weekend, you have been warned... (Zed: You may want to wait until the next posting cycle before you join in. Gives you time to hook up with the rest with Gourmet if they decide to join.)
But they must preach the message of the kitchen deals to the unbelievers! THIS IS SILENCING THEM!
The Nexerus said
A staggered approach does seem like it would be much more effective than absolute cut offs.


Especially since every citizen has a SIN and a Birth Certificate. Ergo everyone has access to a bank account. Ergo everyone can get the payout electronically--further cutting overhead, which saves money the government can either use to tweak the payout or to cut down on taxes, which in turn makes products cheaper.

-That- is, in a crude sense, how you could enforce trickle down theory, without punishing the rich for being rich. The only problem is implementing it. You would have some pretty serious inflation to start with. Not deadly levels, but enough to be a concern to the market.

EDIT

Heck while we're at it, if everyone was guaranteed 18,000 a year, you could even cut down minimum wage, making it easier and cheaper to hire more workers, which means more money all around.
Revans Exile said
Thank you.


Well at least you took it as a compliment, can't knock ya for that.
The Nexerus said
I completely agree that pains should be taken to educate people in a way that prepares them for employment, but the reality is that we'd have to be educating a lot of people by force. For as long as the system allows it, there will be a segment of people that would rather live off of society than in it.


Yes, though there is a much greater part of the population that would reach for more if they could. Especially if their situation was made easier in such a way as to incentive it. (ex: 2 dollars in = 1 dollar loss on the payout still means 50% increased profit until they're "weened" off the payout, in which case they double up to 100% increase in profit. Unlike what it is now, where when you hit the point that you are no longer eligible for welfare, it hits and it hurts.)
The Nexerus said
The difference being that while spending on the military sustains and advances it, spending on welfare adversely affects those who receive it, in the long run.


The reason for this is because welfare gets into your blood and it makes you think weird things. I come from poverty I know welfare. It's a chaotic system that makes no sense. Its original intent has been lost. We need to scrap it and start over and do something more efficient which we can do in the modern era with technology that we couldn't do back in the Roosevelt era.
Or you know, so much is spent on the administration of welfare programs alone that if we just cut welfare altogether, then instituted a payout system where everyone gets X amount of money per year divided over a biweekly pay schedule (18,000 a year?) Then drop corporate taxes (they don't actually tax the corporation--they tax the consumer through the corporation which in turn makes goods and services more expensive for the poor) then offer tax relief for people who buy things like public transportation passes, and set up a system where for every two dollars you earn one dollar is removed from the overall payout...

...We could actually have a smaller government with a stronger overall welfare system that doesn't discriminate by race or gender, and corporations further empowered to make lower prices which enlarges the total potential reach of the market, in turn creating a larger amount of better paying jobs, which means less people become dependent on the payout system.

Because yes, while you could live on 18,000 a year, it wouldn't be comfy living. So getting a job so you can live comfortable becomes incentive.

But I guess that makes sense so fuck that, gotta go ludicrously extreme one way or another and fuck the poor or the rich. I mean it's not like we can ever devise a system that lets the rich be rich and doesn't make the entirety of the US government plunge itself into debt anytime it hits a problem like a heroin addict looking for his next shot.
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