ActRaiserTheReturned said
Why not just list the Alphabet and be done with it?
Oh go away.
ActRaiserTheReturned said
Why not just list the Alphabet and be done with it?
Halo said
It's sort of impossible for anybody in Scotland to not be in full-on debate mode right now, I just couldn't help myself. I rather like that Joricks has become an empirical measurement. What is one Jorick though?
Halo said
I take issue with hypocrisy. His mocking accusation that it was "beneath our standards" stuck in my throat a little, that's all.
Raxacoricofallapatorius said
I think we can safely argue that the flag planting thread was a perfectly valid thread, seeing as it is the test forum and Spam seems to be testing the waters, AND spam and the test forum are both listed in the same section under "Test Forums".Jussayin'But I guess that's none of my business.
Frizan said
All of you are literally the worst.Except Sherly and Doivid.Even though Doivid always responds to me by asking me who I am.
Awson said
It's not a controversial topic at all. It's just a silly topic. And there are loads of bullshit threads that spawn endless debate that get posted in Spam. You can't use that one as a reason, especially before any debating even begins.My problem is that it looks like it Spam xenophopia and pseudo-mob mentality pushed a thread into the redzone when it had no business being locked yet.Sure, it was a shitty thread, but it shouldn't have been locked. At most it should have been ignored, and at least didn't need to be filled with the standard "fuck off" x 5.Disclaimer: I'm not even against getting rid of threads that are going to end badly or that and just plain shitty. I'm against it being so arbitrary.
Halo said
Such things are based on judgement, here. Of course it isn't perfectly rigorous; of course it's arbitrary. And, as I trust Sherly's judgement, I'm fine with that - the mods, although they also should not abuse the power they're given, should not be so caught up in red tape that they cannot take action when and if they deem it necessary.I don't think it was nearly so xenophobic as you think. If such a thread comes from someone we know, often we can be sure that it was simply badly thought-out or whatever. Coming from someone completely random, who has no reason to post such controversy here, who has no reason to value our opinions, and therefore (unlike an established member of the community) certainly no reason to skip over OT where that stuff actually belongs, it reads much more like a petty troll attempt. It's the same as you forgiving your friend for shoving you, whereas you wouldn't forgive a stranger. You assume your friend is having a rough time of it and forgive them because you know they're not usually like that. You don't - cannot - assume that about the stranger. In the same way, I would overlook it coming from you, or from Tripz, or Idle, or Smiral, or whoever. But from folk I know less well - say, Giygas or Derpestein, or, again, any of the regular Spam folk I simply don't know as well - I imagine it would get a similar response. Being part of Spam isn't anything to do with it, within itself.There is no fucking way that thread was legitimately posted in search of enlightening debate; everyone saw that, everyone was annoyed by it, and everyone - as individuals - posted to disagree with it, with the same autonomy as you have now expressed your disagreement. Just because you disagree with the majority does not make the majority - or, indeed, the mod who locked the thread - a mindless mob.
Awson said
I know I can't possibly prove the whole mob thing, so I'll let that one go.And I would disagree with the notion that it would get a similar response if Giygas or Derpestein posted it.But I will go back and say that the closed thread really wasn't a controversy thread or a troll thread. I mean... it could have been. And it could have turned into one. But at face value it looks like a simple pointless, dumb thread to me. It looked like a jokingly fake controversy thread. And even if that wasn't his or per purpose in making it, maybe it should have been treated as one until proven otherwise.EDIT: We get away with it because we have already proven we're not trolls. Perhaps it shouldn't be assumed that other people are.EDIT: I believe I was looking for the term "benefit of the doubt." Which actual trolls usually shatter in their second or third post. But that first post tho.I believe that sums up my feelings on the topic. So agree or disagree, whatever.
Magic Magnum said
Correction: No one seemed to snap and start a fight other than Gold.
8 said
To preface, you guys are strange and have opinions that I firmly disagree with. Maybe I'm just getting to the point where I can create my own opinions and not be influenced by a large mass such as you all. I just started to notice this a few days ago, which is why I haven't been posting much lately, even though I continue to check and read the forum every day. I don't know, maybe Spam is just decreasing in quality. No, I know for sure that it is. It's become a circlejerk of "hey how much more interesting of a person can i be than everyone else", and whether you achieve this by being "randumb" or being overtly aggressive or quirky, you all do it. You all do it.
To be more blunt, you guys are annoying as shit and have stupid opinions. I'm better than you, whatever.