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As people started to move around, the P.E.K.K.A. followed them. It was still searching for the butterfly it had seen, and was certain it was near. Walking into the theater, the massive warrior looked about in awe for a moment. After that, it promptly went back on it's search. Having left the hallway, it had no way of knowing that the painting and the wall had repaired themselves already. "Butterfly?" The metal that held the chair down groaned as it was torn apart. The chair had been lifted up by the P.E.K.K.A. as it searched for it's quarry. After finding no insect, the metal giant put the chair back down, although it leaned at an awkward level as it hadn't been reattached yet. With one chair down, it had a lot more to go before it was done with it's complete search.

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Gonna write a post... ETA unknown, but it's on the way.

CourierSix

I eagerly await your post then

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Where would Soundwave first appear? Anywhere particularly matter?

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Actually that makes sense. So if I guess correctly, it would become like an infinite tug-of-war as each one tried to pull the other into line. Until Primus comes to break it up and shit goes crazy.

Mtntopview

In which case it becomes a seven-way battle for control of the Warp, and nothing actually happens since the Warp is not, strictly speaking, connected to real time and space. It's foolish to say that Unicron can defeat the 40k universe, even if it's EVERY incarnation of Unicron. Let's go back a bit, to when you said Soundwave could quickly defeat Bjorn the Fel-Handed. That one we all can argue.

Earnest Evans

If Soundwave requires a way, he will find a way. Or he could just get someone more powerful than Bjorn to fight it for him. And I never mentioned Bjorn directly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Superman will probably need to be nerfed. Based on what I know from Superman

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Which comes back to God vs God is dumb.

Mtntopview

Well, neither side would ever win, because if anyone looked like they were about to, the other Chaos Gods would just gang up on them. Endless conflict!

Raineh Daze

Exactly. God vs God = Everyone else loses

Mtntopview

Nah. If he was fighting Chaos itself, he'd be sequestered in the Immaterium, so the rest of reality wouldn't really notice.

Raineh Daze

Actually that makes sense. So if I guess correctly, it would become like an infinite tug-of-war as each one tried to pull the other into line. Until Primus comes to break it up and shit goes crazy.

@Prostagma: Nono's abilities are strictly limited unless the powerful stuff is absolutely necessary, Dlanor's nerfed outside of the Uminekoverse so that she can be countered by supernatural things, Emiya-Archer isn't actually here(and I'm not sure anything with Saber would work even if Shirou ever gets a post since they're from two different versions of the Nasuverse), Kuzaku(Demonbane) doesn't have access to the really broken stuff Demonbane can do or I would not have accepted him, Suwako is unkillable but I'm pretty certain she can be incapacitated in a serious fight and does not possess any of the real broken Touhou powers, and Nanoha, while very beamspammy, can still be hurt and incapacitated as well. It's not a matter of being overpowered, as well. It's more of a matter of making sure a fight is fun to RP for all involved, which is a bit harder to do when someone can end the fight immediately via solving it like a puzzle. Like I said, I think the character is funny and I like the idea, but I don't want him to be able to instantly end any fight just for the sake of the fights being fun to RP. ... Also, for the whole Unicron issue, he's never showing up in the RP at all. ^^;

VitaVitaAR

Good. Things usually start to break down when gods are added.

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Which comes back to God vs God is dumb.

Mtntopview

Well, neither side would ever win, because if anyone looked like they were about to, the other Chaos Gods would just gang up on them. Endless conflict!

Raineh Daze

Exactly. God vs God = Everyone else loses

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Which comes back to God vs God is dumb.

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So they stop playing nice and actually focus the Imperial Navy. If it's a slugging match, the Imperium wins. They've got too many ships, and something that threatening would have them actually focus the insanity that is its disparate forces. You're trying to take on a sci-fi Empire that inhabits billions of worlds, many of which have far greater populations than modern Earth, with a single planet-sized thing. It's a losing battle.

Raineh Daze

Basically, the Decepticons and the Autobots combined are just above the total level of the Space Marines. This is not counting the Sisters of Battle, any of the Ordos (Hereticus, Malleus, Xenos), or the Imperial Guard. Unicron would be treated as a major campaign for the Navy, but not any worse than, say, what Cadia deals with every time Abaddon comes a-knocking or what's brewing over at Orktavius. WH40k doesn't focus on naval battles a lot, but just by the fluff, they get to some rip-shit insanity in space.

Earnest Evans

Your forgetting the 13 original Primes. Each one of them is god-like

Mtntopview

Several 40k armies throw actual gods onto the battlefield. Mostly in pieces. They wreck things. Unicron's too small-scale in actual ability to bother the place.

Raineh Daze

This god shit is getting confusing

Mtntopview

Yup. So forget the god thing, and it's best to just focus on the fact that whilst he IS powerful, he only eats planets at a time, and the Imperium has both billions of those and is liable to blow him up. Thus delaying further planet-eating by stupidly long amounts of time. Much like there's a machine controlling stargod buried in Mars. 40k is weird.

Raineh Daze

Well ... Unicron is more like the manifestation of evil and chaos. He seeks to return the universe to what it was like before things were things. He does it by devouring not only planets, but Suns and even the fabric of reality itself. I'm not very good at explaining unicron and always get confused. Go to a wiki and research Primus.

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So they stop playing nice and actually focus the Imperial Navy. If it's a slugging match, the Imperium wins. They've got too many ships, and something that threatening would have them actually focus the insanity that is its disparate forces. You're trying to take on a sci-fi Empire that inhabits billions of worlds, many of which have far greater populations than modern Earth, with a single planet-sized thing. It's a losing battle.

Raineh Daze

Basically, the Decepticons and the Autobots combined are just above the total level of the Space Marines. This is not counting the Sisters of Battle, any of the Ordos (Hereticus, Malleus, Xenos), or the Imperial Guard. Unicron would be treated as a major campaign for the Navy, but not any worse than, say, what Cadia deals with every time Abaddon comes a-knocking or what's brewing over at Orktavius. WH40k doesn't focus on naval battles a lot, but just by the fluff, they get to some rip-shit insanity in space.

Earnest Evans

Your forgetting the 13 original Primes. Each one of them is god-like

Mtntopview

Several 40k armies throw actual gods onto the battlefield. Mostly in pieces. They wreck things. Unicron's too small-scale in actual ability to bother the place.

Raineh Daze

This god shit is getting confusing

Massive Multiversal Crossover: Interest Check and Signups

So they stop playing nice and actually focus the Imperial Navy. If it's a slugging match, the Imperium wins. They've got too many ships, and something that threatening would have them actually focus the insanity that is its disparate forces. You're trying to take on a sci-fi Empire that inhabits billions of worlds, many of which have far greater populations than modern Earth, with a single planet-sized thing. It's a losing battle.

Raineh Daze

Basically, the Decepticons and the Autobots combined are just above the total level of the Space Marines. This is not counting the Sisters of Battle, any of the Ordos (Hereticus, Malleus, Xenos), or the Imperial Guard. Unicron would be treated as a major campaign for the Navy, but not any worse than, say, what Cadia deals with every time Abaddon comes a-knocking or what's brewing over at Orktavius. WH40k doesn't focus on naval battles a lot, but just by the fluff, they get to some rip-shit insanity in space.

Earnest Evans

Your forgetting the 13 original Primes. Each one of them is god-like