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Ampharos, make an IC PM convo about it.
NarcolepticSailor said
Go for it. Could do that or just bring it up at Turin. Either way it needs to be discussed.


For IC reasons, Prussia does not see its intervention as meriting discussion, so someone else should start it.
Perhaps a new PM thread would be in order? With all the Euros?
Rare said
Pasta, you don't need to make a big deal about it. Just ask the Ottoman Empire (since they're the makers of the ToC) to investigate if Prussia's involvement was legitimate.


Austria is the other mediator, ask them. Prussia would want to hear Austria advocate for war on a fellow member of the GC for inadvertently closing a major French invasion route into Germany.
Pasta Sentient said
*shakes head*Article 2: It is hereby recognised by all the signatories that the Kingdom of Prussia and the Austrian Empire shall act as neutral mediators in Europe when war threatens to erupt, and will do all in their power to uphold Article 1.Neutral Mediators.There was no mediation. Belgium had not even made any response to Netherlands. You attacked blatantly with Prussia on your side. That is not Neutrality.


Where this road leads, you won't like, Pasta.
Rare said
Now, I feel dumb. Sorry about that, Nex and So Boerd. :L


No problems :)
"will do all in their power to uphold Article 1."

Prussia believed that a future Flemish revolt in addition to the Belgo-Dutch war would be bloodier and thus resolved the issue in the quickest and most painless fashion. Ripped the band-aid off, if you will.
The Nexerus said
Funniest thing, Pasta.You see, the full extent of Article 1, as shown in the publicly displayed IC post , is as follows: "It is hereby agreed that the signatories will do all in their power to ensure that war on the European continent does not occur."Are you saying that not only were the smaller European powers not allowed to decide whether or not to sign the treaty, but not even allowed to read it? Are there any more aspects of the ToC not publicly shown, perhaps aspects which might be pertinent to this situation?


The Nexerus said
Funniest thing, Pasta.You see, the full extent of Article 1, as shown in the publicly displayed IC post , is as follows: "It is hereby agreed that the signatories will do all in their power to ensure that war on the European continent does not occur."Are you saying that not only were the smaller European powers not allowed to decide whether or not to sign the treaty, but not even allowed to read it? Are there any more aspects of the ToC not publicly shown, perhaps aspects which might be pertinent to this situation?


Dun got Perry Mason'd!
Pasta Sentient said
Actually they did. "Article 1: It is hereby agreed that ‘Europe’, within its broader definition as encompassing Western Russia and Asia Minor, as well as all the integral lands of the signatories, shall be a region kept free of all war."I think Belgium classifies as Europe, but we will talk later.


Surely you wouldn't like me to mention certain aspects of the negotiations, would you? Continue acting like they don't exist, and I will have to remind you.
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