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Dedonus said
Well, in OTL, during the Austro-Prussian War, most of the Confederation sided with Austria, so...


Because Prussia invaded Austrian controlled Holstein.

Austria also attempted to have mediation as the constitution demands. Prussia then declared the Confed over.

Hardly similar circumstances.
Allow me to illustrate the path I took.

1. Wikipedia German Confederation
2. Click link that says "Constitution Adopted"
3. Click "full text of the constitution" link
4. As it is in German, google translate.

Four steps.
It's also safe to assume that nobody cares enough to learn the intricacies of 19th century politics for this game.


That was not an intricacy. Even a cursory search to be vaguely realistic on the German Confederation would have turned up its defense provisiom.
Considering half of your IC posts to me were hostile in nature, it's fairly logical to take them with a grain of salt.


Could have...checked them out, maybe?
Ampharos said
I doubt Outcast is going to make them turn against me because you decided to lure me into a war because of a document I didn't know about. Again, that's just really poor sportsmanship on your part.


How was I supposed to know

1. You didn't know. You never stopped talking about your role as President of GC. If you researched what that meant, you would have known about the constitution.
2. You weren't going to use it on me if I invaded?

And besides, I told you numerous times the GC demanded you defend members.
Anyway, Amph, if you feel ill-treated, I can ask Outcast to keep the German states neutral.
solamelike said
Unless he is charging over the Atlantic ocean with them. I feel the war to my right is a little more alarming.


I indeed wonder what France will do.
Ampharos said
Right there you're telling me that you played on ignorance to lure a player into do something, which you seem to do a lot. That's really poor sportsmanship.Also, pointing out that the passage isn't exactly from Ezekiel 25:17 is equally as lame. You're aware that the purpose here is to have fun, right?


To the contrary, Prussia would not have declared on Austria anyway because of that constitution.That was why I was confident you wouldn't join, because you talked so much about the GC. Imagine my surprise when you joined.
Hey Austria, didn't you wonder for one minute why I didn't declare war on you?

http://personal.ashland.edu/~jmoser1/confederation.htm


The following was an address given in person by Minister-President von Bismarck to the Federal Diet.

"In beginning my remarks calling for immediate mobilization on Austria, I would like to read the following excerpts from the Constitution of our Confederation.

'Article IX. All members of the Confederation pledge themselves to protect Germany as a whole, as well as every single confederated state, against attack, and mutually guarantee their entire possessions, so far as those are included within the Confederation.  When war is once declared on the part of the Confedera­tion no member shall negotiate separately with the enemy, or conclude an armistice or make peace.
 
Article X. The members of the Confederation reserve to themselves the right of forming alliances of all kinds. They pledge themselves, however, to contract no engage­ment which shall be directed against the safety of the Con-federation or that of any individual state within the union.
 
The members of the Confederation pledge themselves likewise not to make war among themselves upon any pre-tense, or to follow up their contentions with force, but to submit these to the Diet. It shall devolve upon this body to attempt arbitration by means of a commission. Should this fail and a judicial decision become necessary, the same shall be effected through a well-organized court of arbitration, to the decision of which the conflicting parties shall forthwith submit."

Both of these articles have been flagrantly violated by Austria, who has the audacity to call on you, my German brothers in a war of Austrian aggression. Because the Austrians have no reason for war. This Constitution supersedes their alliance with the Ottomans, such that the moment Prussia declared war on the Ottomans, the Austrian alliance with them was voided. Therefore Prussia requests under Article 9 that its German brothers help.

I also would like to point out that as Austria has united with the Muslims, it has begun heretically inventing passages of scripture. Ezekiel 25:17 actually reads, and feel free to follow along: 'And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I am the LORD, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.' Which bears only passing resemblance to Austria's verse. Coincidence? I doubt it."
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