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In case anyone was wondering, I don't believe that Solipsism crap, but I use it to steer Atheists into an emotion comparable to the one which we feel when constantly harassed particularly in threads not intended to debate God's existence. You know something to be true (in this case, an Objective reality), yet someone incessantly spews philosoph(istr)y at you telling you you haven't seen what you've seen, nor heard what you've heard. Here I will deliberately use a popular and offensive analogy for God. If someone has seen (not that I myself have seen God, but some have) Santa Claus in the sky clearly once, let alone multiple times, but has no other demonstrable irregularities in his vision, you cannot make him doubt it any more than I can make you doubt reality itself with my solipsism. So we get it, some of you don't believe in God. But very nearly have we destroyed an exploration of this fellow's beliefs with another religious debate that never convinces anyone. So let's stop, m'kay?

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Magic Magnum said
I clearly am making an argument though. :PSo clearly there is a me.

Who is to say it is "You" arguing and not "Me" arguing with a figment of my imagination, which is also "Me".

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Magic Magnum said
Actually I can argue it, may you believe I exist or not.

If there is no "You", "You" can't argue anything.

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morality is always subjective no matter who you look at, so I'd basically be arguing on the basis of my own subjective morality.

But you can't because I can't prove you exist. Solipsism for the win.

World in Revolution: 1920

Can't say I'm surprised.

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ASTA said
Source?

I am an Epistemeological Solipsist. Reality may or may not exist, because I am perceiving it through the senses. We could all be brains in vats. To assume otherwise (with no proof) is to be dogmatic. Occam's Razor renders reality unneccessary.

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Plus the obvious contradiction of, if God or Jesus (even if we go with the 'they're separate individuals' approach) truly said the things and committed the acts shown in the bible
they are by any moral persons standards not good people, but very terrible and cruel people. But like I said, this is more of a contradiction. Since most Christians either turn a blind eye to this and call them good people, or simply don't read the bible to begin with so they have no idea who they're actually worshipping.

Morality doesn't exist. It's not real.

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But, aren't the Vengeful Lord and Jesus the same?

Exodus 3:14

"And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

John 8:56-59

"56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."

Not, "I was". It is clear the Jews recognized his claim to divinity because,

"59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."

Clash of Civilisation: A Historical/Alternate History RP

Helmuth von Moltke in charge of Germany.

Control VS Freedom

Magic Magnum said
There's no guarantee they won't.But if they already have some drugs that might be enough incentive to start buying stuff like decent food.I'd rather take the chance though than condemn people to starve because of a substance they choose to take.

Because if they end up buying more drugs, we may end up being partially responsible for their death. This is the central issue with welfare. It is money seized from another person by force. It does not belong to the recipient. The state and the electorate have the absolute authority to set conditions on its use. Therefore, it is the drug user's fault for consuming the drug and not our fault for not giving them money they to all fair minded people have no rights to. Nothing is more uncomfortable than food withdrawal anyhow.

If we wanted to make all welfare recipients listen to 3 hours of Tom Jones' "What's new, pussycat?" I wouldn't have any objection. Being on welfare should cause almost as much if not more government-caused distress than men with guns making you fork over money to pay for the welfare does,