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I'll consider it boss! Been kinda... MIA for quite awhile so I am not sure if I am ready to get back into the swing o' things yet
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I think the issue really comes down to whether you want to focus on mechs in a hard science fiction (i.e. sort of realistic or plausible) or soft science fiction (i.e. science is magic) type of way.

Machines that move like humans (in regards to agility/dexterity) and machines that can be customized, upgraded or retrofitted without great difficulty (ignoring the difficulty of making changes to standardized designs) to me at least falls a bit too far into the "science is magic" category of settings.


Mecha are pretty soft SF anyway; walking combat machines aren't really particularly practical and plausible, and take more than one 'handwave' of reality to make them anything even approaching practical.
Some kind of invented material or power source usually, to allow them to exist. With most Gundam series it's the invention of a new power source or type of construction material, and it's the same in most other settings as well - Battletech/Mechwarrior (whatever) has the Neurohelmet and Ferro-Fibrous Armour, as well as miniaturised fusion reactors. Heavy Gear has it's own similar things, as does pretty much every other mecha-based setting. Everything else is completely stylistic choices; in the first Battletech novels before the 'feel' of the universe was completely nailed down, the mechs did actually move more like those in most anime; doing combat rolls, dives and such. It was only after more of the books came out that they became the slower-paced 'walking tanks' everyone thinks of now.

It's all a matter of personal taste, and it's obviously up to Aristo which we go for. Personally, I'm hoping more of the anime Real Robot side, because that's more to my taste. Whichever it is though, we should probably ensure its' consistent between all of us.
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Mecha are pretty soft SF anyway; walking combat machines aren't really particularly practical and plausible, and take more than one 'handwave' of reality to make them anything even approaching practical.
Some kind of invented material or power source usually, to allow them to exist. With most Gundam series it's the invention of a new power source or type of construction material, and it's the same in most other settings as well - Battletech/Mechwarrior (whatever) has the Neurohelmet and Ferro-Fibrous Armour, as well as miniaturised fusion reactors. Heavy Gear has it's own similar things, as does pretty much every other mecha-based setting. Everything else is completely stylistic choices; in the first Battletech novels before the 'feel' of the universe was completely nailed down, the mechs did actually move more like those in most anime; doing combat rolls, dives and such. It was only after more of the books came out that they became the slower-paced 'walking tanks' everyone thinks of now.

It's all a matter of personal taste, and it's obviously up to Aristo which we go for. Personally, I'm hoping more of the anime Real Robot side, because that's more to my taste. Whichever it is though, we should probably ensure its' consistent between all of us.






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Everything else is completely stylistic choices; in the first Battletech novels before the 'feel' of the universe was completely nailed down, the mechs did actually move more like those in most anime; doing combat rolls, dives and such. It was only after more of the books came out that they became the slower-paced 'walking tanks' everyone thinks of now.


I think that's partly due to Battletech just straight up stealing stuff from other franchises (like Robotech) in it's early iterations. :D

Agree really on everything you said, mechs in principle are pretty much "handwaving" central.
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I think that's partly due to Battletech just straight up stealing stuff from other franchises (like Robotech) in it's early iterations. :D

Yeah, the original set of mechs from the first game were all stolen from various anime of the time xD Harmony Gold later got their shirts up about it (as they do), and the visual images of the mechs quietly disappeared for a few years, before coming back as 'project phoenix' with the new 're-seen' designs. It's a crazy story.

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Yeah, the original set of mechs from the first game were all stolen from various anime of the time xD Harmony Gold later got their shirts up about it (as they do), and the visual images of the mechs quietly disappeared for a few years, before coming back as 'project phoenix' with the new 're-seen' designs. It's a crazy story.

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It's a crazy story.


In fairness, it was the 80s (I think) so everyone was probably too busy doing lines of cocaine to figure out things like copyright. ;)

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If anyone's still lingering around and hasn't popped by the OOC, we've just gotten started!
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