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It's really a matter of what Kol laid down for Diana's character. Diana is someone who refuses to harm humans. IC wise, of course Gwynn would think that's intentional sabotage while OOC wise, it's just how the character is.
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It's really a matter of what Kol laid down for Diana's character. Diana is someone who refuses to harm humans. IC wise, of course Gwynn would think that's intentional sabotage while OOC wise, it's just how the character is.


Then again.

Why is she even siding with the angels to begin with? I mean, I understand not wanting to harm humans. Gwynn, if given the option would side with them over the demons any day if she had too.

But I dunno, it seems rather...a bad choice of allegiances for her if she wanted to not harm humans.
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The again.

Why is she even siding with the angels to begin with?


That's something to ask KoL, though KoL has expressed interest in Diana defecting sides. Her not liking harm to humans can be chalked up to an interesting personality trait.
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Also, how did Diana know the artifact was human to begin with? Maybe Diana took to the angels side at first, but upon realizing it was human, defected. Unfortunately, thats just a case of bad choreography.
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Also, how did Diana know the artifact was human to begin with?


She's a dragon. That can be chalked up to dragons smelling what's a man and what's a machine.
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And let's not forget Suspension of Disbelief should exist to some degree here for the sake of cohesion. Angels, Demons, and Machina are re-enacting the opening of New Hope. Latitude can be afforded if we can all enjoy ourselves, all right?
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That's something to ask KoL, though KoL has expressed interest in Diana defecting sides. Her not liking harm to humans can be chalked up to an interesting personality trait.


I mean, its fine if she defects, but a traitor to a cause is a traitor regardless of what 'their character is'. Gwynn would likely defect as well under differing circumstances. She probably does in fact, hate the angels somewhat overzealous ways just a tiny bit, even if she doesn't want to admit it. In fact, Gwynn deep down is honestly tired of all of the fighting. she probably like nothing more than to drink a big glass of nordic ale and spend all day butt naked in a hot tub.

But more on point, what reason would she logically have to defect at this point? Because she wants to protect a simple human? What reason exactly does she have to believe the human would even be harmed by the angels?

And let's not forget Suspension of Disbelief should exist to some degree here for the sake of cohesion. Angels, Demons, and Machina are re-enacting the opening of New Hope. Latitude can be afforded if we can all enjoy ourselves, all right?


NO. EVERYTHING MUST ME LOGICAL AND SERIOUS.

...but yeah, I probably really am over analyzing things just a bit. It just seems to me, that from the beginning Diana wanting to defect has given the angels a huge disadvantage in this mission since their inside operative is working against them, since it seems to be somewhat of a foregone conclusion at this point.

But I suppose traitors are gonna traitor.

*shrug*

Also. Someone answer @LokiLeo789 question. What's powering this ship? For you know, theoretical reasons.
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But more on point, what reason would she logically have to defect at this point? Because she wants to protect a simple human? What reason exactly does she have to believe the human would even be harmed by the angels?


Again, that's something to ask KoL. Ultimately, Diana isn't my character and I only go off of what KoL has told me. Which given the IC, probably if the Maids torture Diana into defecting or something. It's not a matter of Diana wanting to defect but KoL wanting something to force her to defect. Does that make sense?

As for the Elicitor, probably a mix of nuclear and plasma. Or story magic.
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It's a mix of Nuclear and Plasma based power.

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Thank you for the consideration. In regards to Diana's treachery, well it has to do with being forced to serve Heaven as part of her backstory. Her foundation was never of extreme loyalty to Heaven, and had only remained out of some loyalty to the long dead Saint that forced her into service. Basically the Sisters are the first to show her any compassion, and Bastion is an innocent soul that she wants to safeguard at any cost.

Is it a bit...sudden, with her defection? Probably. But I think KoL was playing this more in the interest of transitioning her to the Machina all along.

Though if Gywnn wants to slay the traitor then she can try her hand.
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Again, that's something to ask KoL. Ultimately, Diana isn't my character and I only go off of what KoL has told me. Which given the IC, probably if the Maids torture Diana into defecting or something. It's not a matter of Diana wanting to defect but KoL wanting something to force her to defect. Does that make sense?


That's the thing here. It just seems like KoL's character is getting exactly what KoL wants for her, regardless of what happens ICly.

I don't want Gwynn to have BDSM fun times, because that honestly might just make her go a little more unhinged than she already is, but if that's what happens, that's what happens.

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If it's about Diana getting captured, that's kinda my fault actually. I wanted to have some interactions with her so I asked KoL if it'd be alright for my sisters to have captured her and turn her to the side of the Machinas.
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If it's about Diana getting captured, that's kinda my fault actually. I wanted to have some interactions with her so I asked KoL if it'd be alright for my sisters to have captured her and turn her to the side of the Machinas.


I mean, its fine if KoL wants her to defect. I just don't really think its happening in a believable manner.

To be honest, I want Gwynn to defect as well, and Silana be redeemed through Angelic interactions. But its going to take more than a little a one time imprisonment.

but again. Whatevs. You guys do you.
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Well right now Diana isn't defecting yet, she's just captured. Ryo and KoL are working on the whole defecting part, which hasn't happened yet because there are slightly more concerning matters to deal with, such as the demons who'd capture and do horrible things to them all.

And if you want those things to happen Rune, all you need to do is contact a player and make arrangements. What's happening between Diana and the Maids are happening because the players planned for it and make the initiative to make it happen. No one is going to force defection onto anyone, OoC anyways. IC who knows what could happen, more so since none of it has happened yet.

Just like Fran Vs Gwynn, we don't know who'd win. We have a good idea, but until they crossblades it's way too early to have an answer. Now if you're concerned that it doesn't seem to be taking it's natural course, it isn't. But that's because people are going out of their way to do things differently, making their own decisions and doing it their style. Either way, it's too early to start making final judgement calls. Like this battle, this is far from over.
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Will get out a post for Regia tonight. Suparna can wait till later.
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Oh no, I understand that they've wanted this to happen. Its fine to plan things. Its fine to want things to happen. But it seems like its an already foregone conclusion from the way the GMs have been talking.

What about interactions with people who aren't privy to their plans, that might do something to hinder those plans? It seems like they're ignoring possible kinks someone puts into their plans. I mean hell, Gwynn's going to do everything in her power to protect both the humans, and Diana and Bastion from the demons in this fight. So much so, that even if she sees Fran she might be able to restrain her more violent impulses.

But again, maybe I am over analyzing things. Either way, we'll see so I think its best to stop this discussion for now. Maybe my worries are unfounded.

*Shrugs*

I'm telling you though, that in a battle solely between Gwynn and Fran, Gwynn is gonna go full berserker mode and its going to either end with Fran killing Gwynn, or Gwynn killing Fran. Gwynn's never gonna surrender and any attempts at sexy fun times by Fran, is gonna be met with violence no matter Gwynn's physical state. Gwynn's gonna at least take Fran down with her if she's on the losing side~

Chick's got some anger issues she's gotta work out.

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You just can't come up with a comback for Sil, can ya? :P
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Oh no, I understand that they've wanted this to happen. Its fine to plan things. Its fine to want things to happen. But it seems like its an already foregone conclusion from the way the GMs have been talking.

What about interactions with people who aren't privy to their plans, that might do something to hinder those plans? It seems like they're ignoring possible kinks someone puts into their plans.


If something new happens and ruins our supposed plans, we'll just make new ones. It's not that hard to adapt to what other people do IC. But yes, this should probably end now before overanalyzing kills the fun and point of this.
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Speaking of Fran, is Sil gunna be jealous that Fran refers to her and Suparna as her lovely Lolitas? I kinda want to see the two trying to claim Fran as their own, or whatever other horrifically kinky shite ya think Fran can handle.
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Speaking of Fran, is Sil gunna be jealous that Fran refers to her and Suparna as her lovely Lolitas? I kinda want to see the two trying to claim Fran as their own, or whatever other horrifically kinky shite ya think Fran can handle.


Silana miiight be a a lot little jealous, yes. Although, its not really good to make her act on that jealousy. Silana will just straight up kill or maim anything that she doesn't like/stands in her way.

So yeah. She might just attempt to make Suparna her undead slave.
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Silana miiight be a a lot little jealous, yes. Although, its not really good to make her act on that jealousy. Silana will just straight up kill or maim anything that she doesn't like/stands in her way.

So yeah. She might just attempt to make Suparna her undead slave.


Good luck reanimating each maggot one by one before Suparna and Chirada can crush her bones.
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