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• how could we best end this quickly?


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"You know what would be awesome? Being told to continually kill your aunt. Over and over again. Oh wait. I used the wrong word. I'm sorry. What I meant to say was 'you know what would be more traumatic than killing your aunt?' So no, I'm going to sit out this training session, if that's okay with you. Or if it's not."
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"Faust, we... Look, we aren't going to kill your aunt. Not this time. I have an idea. We will make this right. And by the end of this training, nobody will have to die. Not on my watch. Trust me."
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Well, a bit busy at the moment, but essentially this is what Dragoon was before becoming a super villain (in my mind, anyway). A legacy, more advanced along the path than Alex and the rest of the team, but not quite an adult super. That spear is a magic weapon that'll go through most anything and can intelligently track targets when thrown, her armor is basically impenetrable by most anything, she's fast, strong, and whatever God-Like Beauty gives you in combat. ^^

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@Tengri@ErmineTwo things, we don't know Dragoon is dead(I'm pretty sure we thought the adults hid that from us), and I really doubt that this stint of hero training is having us try and kill her either. Since we're heroes, and heroes try to avoid that, then we're likely trying to incapacitate and subdue her. Faust could be against that as well, but she'd definitely be forced to particiate in case similar situations arise. She'd need to get used to the thought of fighting heroes gone rouge.
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"You know what would be awesome? Being told to continually kill your aunt. Over and over again. Oh wait. I used the wrong word. I'm sorry. What I meant to say was 'you know what would be more traumatic than killing your aunt?' So no, I'm going to sit out this training session, if that's okay with you. Or if it's not."


Dude, is Dragoon your aunt? Alex is with Andrea, then, "f#$% you mom, we are not putting Andrea through this 'what could you have done differently so your aunt wouldn't have hurt so many people,' bit.
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And what would we do when we face another rogue hero again? This is a training. We have orders. In fact, they even gave you a chance to end everything better. If only inside the training room. Not many people have a chance like this.
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And what would we do when we face another rogue hero again? This is a training. We have orders. In fact, they even gave you a chance to end everything better. If only inside the training room. Not many people have a chance like this.


OOC: The pre-IC banter. ^^

IC: "Yeah, we have orders. We will face other rogue heroes. I have like, no friends, no life. Andrea is all I've got, and I'm not putting her through watching her aunt terrorize the f#$%ing villagers. Run a simulation against Lodestar, or me, or the only other person I've ever called my friend, Arsen, who kicked me topless through a window a couple months ago? Remember that? I do. She's a badass, just like Dragoon, and she's still out there. She'd make a better opponent, and no one's gonna have any issues with her except me and mom,".
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@Joshie Also, here's my roll for Ian's burn right now. He's at three and down one condition, which considering the situation, might be guilty because it's kinda messed up that Faust has to fight her aunt again.
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"And what's the point? Can't you see? They are testing us. Me. Her. You. It's all part of the test. That's her aunt we're fighting? Fine. Let's stop her, then. Or what, we're going to ask our enemies to change every time we don't feel like facing them. It's a big, bad world out there. Mirage pulls your greatest fears out of your head. What if we face her? What if we face someone like her? I simply want to say: it's better if we face what troubles us now, in controlled situation. So stop being so whimsical and do what has to be done."
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Hmmm... considering what @Ermine stated (and that makes perfect sense), would this mean that Andrea would sit this out, even if the Guardians 'insisted' on it?
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@Tengri@LiliyaIan: *literally fades into the background*

edit: @JoshieProbably, as it seems like that was their intent. However, since they logged off soon after, we've no way of confirming or denying it. I want to make an Ian post, but I'd rather everything get resolved before I do.
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edit: @JoshieProbably, as it seems like that was their intent. However, since they logged off soon after, we've no way of confirming or denying it. I want to make an Ian post, but I'd rather everything get resolved before I do.


*nod*

Might be a good idea. Potential drama that I can take advantage of there (in the form of a separate scene of an Adult Guardian talking to Andrea). :)
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Hmmm... considering what @Ermine stated (and that makes perfect sense), would this mean that Andrea would sit this out, even if the Guardians 'insisted' on it?


OOC: Well, wouldn't we have to roll for influence? I don't quite know how the system works as of yet, but I mean, Andrea's wishes and what she feels conned into doing by the grown ups are two different things. Same goes for Alex, I assume.

IC: "You ever lost a hand, Malcolm? I have. You've seen bad, so have I. I ran that bitch into the pavement hard enough to kill a normal human," tearing at her stupid costume, Alex pulled her right arm from out of the sleeve with enough force to tear the portion of the fabric along the seam from her underarm to her lower ribs, before pulling the arm out from under the shirt and lifting the cloth along the right side of her body, pulling it up to display nearly the entire length of her scar, covering only that portion of the scar which would require her to display those bits considered unseemly to reveal in public. "I am well aware what the costs of this job really are. If Dragoon gets out some day, and I have to, I'll put her in the f#$%ing ground myself, but we are better than this. We don't hurt people. I am not going along with making Andrea fight her aunt just so we can, what, get it drilled through our little kid heads that sometimes bad shit happens? We already f#$%ing know that bad shit happens," she kicked the steel wall, hard. A clear indentation in the shape of a size eight, five hundred fifty dollar Lucchese boot was left behind when she regained her composure.
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"You're wrong. We hurt people. We only hurt people. We hurt people that hurt other people, hoping they won't come back. It doesn't matter whom we hurt. On the other hand, why we hurt them is all that matters.

Her aunt is a criminal, willing or not. I don't want to say she is a bad person, but we're still finding new bodies in the rubble, and some of them had masks on. And so, we will stop her again. Not because we want to.

Nothing can prepare us for what will come. But we can try. We have to.

It's our duty. If we don't prepare to carry them, nobody will. As a team. Because I am not good enough. And neither are you. Nobody here can stop even a bootleg copy of Dragoon. Not alone.

Polaris... Alex, have I ever failed you before?"
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"You're wrong. We hurt people. We only hurt people. We hurt people that hurt other people, hoping they won't come back. It doesn't matter whom we hurt. On the other hand, why we hurt them is all that matters.

Her aunt is a criminal, willing or not. I don't want to say she is a bad person, but we're still finding new bodies in the rubble, and some of them had masks on. And so, we will stop her again. Not because we want to.

Nothing can prepare us for what will come. But we can try. We have to.

It's our duty. If we don't prepare to carry them, nobody will. As a team. Because I am not good enough. And neither are you. Nobody here can stop even a bootleg copy of Dragoon. Not alone.

Polaris... Alex, have I ever failed you before?"


"Andrea already proved that she could stand up to her aunt. We already beat Dragoon, together. If she gets out, and becomes a problem, we'll face it as a team, like we always do. And no, you've never failed me, Robert," she couldn't remember the last time she'd used his actual name, it'd been near on a year at least since the whole Malcolm thing had started, but he seemed so... Personable, and open, vulnerable for once. It was a rare display of care that he would bring up something like his loyalty, and he was loyal, always had been. Of course Alex would use it to step on his feelings. "So far as I can tell, the only one here who hasn't proven that they can face someone they care about, is you. Could you do it? Fight Nucleus, kill her? She's as susceptible to brainwashing as Dragoon ever was, she's just as smart as you, and more dangerous than Dragoon and Arsen combined," half compliment got buried in there somehow, calling Malcolm as smart as Nucleus. Maybe she just felt bad about her supposed leadership position, and wondered if Malcolm wasn't the one who should be calling the shots. Then again, should he? He'd have them all strangle puppies to display dissociative properties if he had his way. War time commander, maybe, but a peace time leader? Never.
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@Liliya@Tengri"Uh, guys. . . Andrea already said she wasn't doing it. If the guardians aren't forcing her, then maybe we shouldn't argue about it right now. Please"
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<Snipped quote by Joshie>

OOC: Well, wouldn't we have to roll for influence? I don't quite know how the system works as of yet, but I mean, Andrea's wishes and what she feels conned into doing by the grown ups are two different things. Same goes for Alex, I assume.


The point, though is to give Andrea the 'chance' to reject influence. If things stand, she's already in there, get what I'm saying? But a good point was brought up: Would Andrea just do this without voicing out concern. What I plan is to give a chance to reject influence and grow from there.

I'll leave it to @Ermine though.
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"No, for this training we need the whole team involved. No excuses."

He sighed heavily, feeling like the whole world was crushing him under its weight. It wasn't a pleasant sound.

"And yes, I would fight and I would kill my mentor. Not out of my duty. Because that's what she would want. Nucleus knows that sometimes we have to make compromises with ourselves. It's what heroes do: fight bad guys. To no end. Again and again."
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@JoshieOkay, I think we've all agreed so far that Andrea's sitting this one out at the moment or otherwise preoccupied, so I'm going to probably get a post up sometime tonight once I finish my school work.
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