[OOC] Somethings Can't Be Forgotten

[mamagermany]

That's understandable.

Yes, and here's why.
New vampires are incredibly volatile. It takes weeks or months for them to get under control. Jonathan is going to be better prepared emotionally, but that doesn't mean he's going to be much better behaved than usual. He begged Elizabeth to keep him from hurting anyone, and that's what she did, but keeping him restrained lead to injuries.

[Love Dove]

Oooh okay that's makes sense.
I was like why would he hurt his mother?! But I get it now.

[mamagermany]

Not intentionally, of course. I'm sure once he gets a hold of himself he feels just awful about it. But there was nothing either of them could have done.

[Love Dove]

Yeah think we should go ahead and make it a statement. Whatever happens when you're newly turned is not your fault.

[mamagermany]

It's really not.

[Love Dove]

kes me wonder though, you said Rowland locked himself away? Did that make it harder on him or easier?

[mamagermany]

Yes, but that was after he was turned, probably a few weeks after. Elizabeth would have had to pay attention to him during that time.
Personally, that probably made it harder on him, but it would be better for the rest of the world.

[Love Dove]

See I figured it would have made a bit easier without there being people around. Though I guess he would still have the bloodlust.

I bet it makes things easier for him in the long run though huh?

[mamagermany]

I'd say it does make things easier in the long run.

I'm starting to think about more relationships. Like what's the relationship Rowland and Bela have, Bela and Nadya, Nadya and Elizabeth, Nadya and Rowland, ect. Some I haven't thought about much.

[Love Dove]

Seeing Bela's history, I bet that him and Rowland don't get along.

I'm having trouble placing Nathaniel both with the others (other than Maxen and Simone) and with his background story it is really annoying.

[mamagermany]

Not sure how they get along personally, but I think they've found a way to make their 'professional lives' work. They're both basically the men of the house and have to do the men of the house things, so they've probably figured out how to make it work. The key would be to have Bela kind of work independently in several ways so everyone can pretend that he's getting his work done his way and on his own terms and because he wants to, not because someone else is telling him to.

Sometimes it's hard, you just can't figure out where they fit in, right?

I think I've figured out what Nadya did to get on Elizabeth's bad side. It has to do with how recklessly she fed.

[Love Dove]

Ah I see, that's actually really clever. So than if Bela thinks he does things his own way, when he wants to do them. Does he still think he is part of the family/clan?

Yeah pretty much. Might skip him for now.

Oooh what did she do?

[mamagermany]

He is part of the clan, but like with Eleanora, kinda loosely affiliated.

So when she was a new vampire, she was really wild, right? She fed whenever she wanted, on whoever she wanted. I figure, giving her inexperience, she probably accidentally turned several of her victims. So we got several men across town turning into vampires, which is really bad, and even worse, one of the men Nadya turned was the husband of one of Eleanora's human friends, which means Eleanora and therefore Jonathan are way too close to it and can easily be suspected. We all know that wouldn't sit well with Elizabeth.
So everyone in the Mercer clan except Jonathan has to clean up this very dangerous mess Nadya made and consider immediately leaving town.

[Love Dove]

Ah okay, makes sense.

Oh man, it was a BIG no no! Wow Nadya. No where she was punished for that one. I'm surprised Elizabeth didn't do worse.

[mamagermany]

Maybe her punishment should be worse, hmm. Breaking her finger off sounded harsh before I figured out her crime, but now that I know the crime, the punishment might be too lenient.
You could chalk it up to that rule you made earlier. Whatever a vampire does in that transition period of a few months isn't their fault.
But still, I dunno. I think Nadya had enough of her wits about her by then.

[Love Dove]

Well I mean if we go with the idea that she was in the transition period than its far from lenient.
But how long was it since her turn?

[mamagermany]

Maybe like six months? A little more?
Elizabeth would look at it more like 'it doesn't matter how lenient I should be, fairly, what matters is that she's put my son in danger and that's unacceptable no matter what'.

[Love Dove]

Oh wow. Yeah, I would think by then she should have gained enough control to know better.

I totally agree with Elizabeth. That why I'm surprised it wasn't worse.

[mamagermany]

I might revamp Nadya's punishment then. It could, and perhaps should, be worse. Especially given Elizabeth's protectiveness over Jonathan's safety.

[Love Dove]

If you want to, I think that it should be. I mean that is her son after all.