[OOC] Civilization Roleplay: Rise of Races (The Tribes of Nova Mondial Want You!)

[Meiyuuhi]

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I just assumed it would be in all of our next "big" posts.

@Joegreenbeen

That would work for me, since the next post was supposed to be about the moon celebration anyway and that would put an interesting spin on things.

[Aweirdgamer]

Having it happen next major post works for me.

[Meiyuuhi]

I'm finally feeling the creative urge... a post tomorrow is indeed likely.

[Veoline]

Neruu's proposal is sensible. Since eclipses are cyclical, we could make them occur every set number of pages.

[Nerevarine]

Cool, that could be an interesting proposal with the Eclipse considering the whole incident at the religious ceremony with the Herenethor.

Bonus Linguistic Evolution

As you may or may not have noticed, Coastal Arsuronic has begun to introduce end markers to words, in particular -im. In Coastal and Lotus Arsuronic, -im signifies the singular, while -el signifies the plural. Prefixes still show the more abstract "catagory" that the word falls into, (ex: An- "living sapient creature", ge- "an animal, non sapient creature", Yi- "of the Sea", Ki- "divinity", Fi- "a concept, idea"), but they will no longer change to show number.

Stone/Early Bronze Age Arsuronic
Yisih - Fish
Ésih - Fish (plural)

Middle Bronze Age Coastal Arsuronic
Yisihim - Fish
Yisihel - Fish (plural)

However a different system is developing around the Yijen Fork Region due to its isolated location from the rest of the dialects, begining to branch off into its own language.

Old Yijenese
Esih - Fish
Esi' - Fish (plural)

Yijenese's final consonants naturally lenitised (softened), and show their plural form by fortition (hardening)

Another Example

ÃrékH - Person
Ãrek - People

In additon, Yijenese and Arsuronic both begin to show the posessive case via stem-innitial lenition

In Arsuronic
Gedańegim - Deer
Geðańegim - of the Deer

In Yijenese
Shejanek - Wild Animal
Shełaneg - of the Wild Animals

[Meiyuuhi]

Neruu's proposal is sensible. Since eclipses are cyclical, we could make them occur every set number of pages.

@Veoline

I'm thinking the logical choice at this point is every ten.

[Joegreenbeen]

Subtly Veo gets his way.

[Aweirdgamer]

I think let's play it by ear, but every 10 pages seems reasonable, too.

Subtly Veo gets his way.

@Joegreenbeen

The year rate may change by then, though.

@Nerevarine
Interesting system.

[Meiyuuhi]

Subtly Veo gets his way.

@Joegreenbeen

We haven't established how long it is between lunar eclipses, mind you.

[Aweirdgamer]

After some development, here is a diagram, explanation, and some lore about established Platta mathematics. It is also available in the Character Sheet.

Platta Early Mathematics

Diagram

How To Read

The orange background is for contrast only. This is used to clarify color use. Actual Platta cloths may vary. To read Platta diagrams and writing, read left to right, and do not combine symbols with the above and below unless an edge is reached. A space between 'sentences' is sometimes added for clarification purposes, but Platta do not usually add them.

Explanation

A cyan dot represents the communication of a concept or observation of a thing. A medium-light green dot here represents the process of addition represented by how life adds in time. A purple green dot represents the collection of the previously stated. Due to the mathematical presence, it can be said to be the outcome of a mathematical process. So, the first sentence reads 1 thing (of talked of) plus 1 thing (of talked of) equals 2 things (in outcome). The next reads 1 thing (of talked of) plus 2 things (of talked of) equals 3 things (of outcome).

This idea repeats until the one with a light red dot, which represents subtraction as fights remove more than add. The first sentence with that reads 2 things minus 1 thing equals 1 thing. The next equation has a brown dot which represents absence or zero. So, it reads 1 thing minus 1 thing equals 0 things.

This idea continues until the yellow dots, which represent multiplication from how change and the care of ideas of Platta work. The first reads 2 things times 1 thing equals 2 things. The next reads 2 things times 2 things equals 4 things.

The next unique dot is black which represents equality by comparison which is not the same thing as equality by outcome. The sentence with it reads 10 things equal 10 things. The dot after the black dot is a quicker way of saying 10. Unlike other operations, it isn't filled with purple as this is to show that it is about how to write it, not what it means in outcome.

The next sentence means 10 things plus 10 things equals 20 things. The 20 is filled with purple because it is now a collection of an outcome. When a short-hand ten of either kind (things spoken of or outcome) is combined with others similar, it is an implied add. The first equation with this says 10 things plus 1 thing equals 11 things.

The next unique dot is white, but also notice in that equation, there is a green and red one. The green and red together represents 'within'. White means 'in the middle', which stems from the symbolism of unity, or in this case, 'between'. So, that sentence means 3 things within 1 thing results in between 2 things and 4 things. This is used to express non-precise measurements.

The next unique dot is a larger one with a dark blue rim and purple inside. That represents 100. At this huge of a number, it is not different between observation and outcome because the Platta don't count when things reach such high numbers. The dark blue represents the complexity of considering 100 things. The following circle with a purple brim but dark blue inside represents a thousand.

The sets of purple dots below represent the first 15 numbers, and reminder of the symbols for adding, subtracting, and multiplying.

The two unique non-circular symbols are Platta markings unique to each Platta to represent who came up with it. It is a form of giving credit but more so, in the event of problems, it informs of who to contact. It's like a signature. On this cloth, the more yellow one belongs to the Platta engineer named Fiyam. The green one represents a caretaker named Pajwina.

Lore

History

The diagram explains basic mathematics and numbers that the Platta use. As of the time of this diagram was made, the concepts of large numbers, addition, subtraction, multiplication, zero, equality by comparison, and within, were well known. Division was just emerging. Other cloths might contain specific problems to give younger Platta example sheets analogous to homework except they are only presented by written means. They are solved orally and cooperatively instead of by writing and individually.

Terminology

The Platta do not call the operators plus, minus, and multiply outside of reading conveniences. They actually say 'with life', 'with fight', and 'with Platta care'. They call equals more often 'becomes'. They call a note of equality as 'is symbolically the same as'.

Lore about Multiplication

The reason why Platta care (multiplication) is perceived to make the changes varies per number multiplied.
To combine an observation with humility and horror (multiply by zero) is to make it of the same. Observations treated with humility make the result unused and humble as well since it isn't taken from the world. To treat it with horror, or something worse than necessary violence, ends in horror for all. To multiply by one means that an observation is not considered widely and only put in one view so the result is nothing changes. It's a metaphor about how things we only know one way about result in no change of life. To multiply by more than one is to bring multiple Platta views and thus make inspiration, which is why multiplying like this always results in larger numbers anything multiplied with.

Negative Numbers

Negative numbers are not yet considered. To say something subtracting more than it (like one minus three) is thought as an error in writing and should have been said as three minus one.

[Veoline]

Ten pages between each solar eclipse sounds good.

[Joegreenbeen]

If there are no objections, I an going to start writing up an eclipse post.

[Meiyuuhi]

If there are no objections, I an going to start writing up an eclipse post.

@Joegreenbeen

By all means. I'm about halfway through mine.

[Raindeer]

I would like to apologize for my lack of posting. Having a massive case of writer's block and work is currently chaos.

[Father Dagon]

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Anderson?

UPDATE: After checking around for planet makers, I found one that seemed to work well. Here's the explored area so far as a globe:


Tool: planetmaker.wthr.us

@Aweirdgamer

The Anderson thing was a reference to the Matrix, and wow, that planetmaker is complicated, good job finding it.

Also, I seem to have created an eclipse with words. I HAVE BECOME GOD!

[Shoggothought]

I Hath Returned!

[Father Dagon]

I've been thinking about adding in quotes for every change in era for the Night-Walkers. Not an actual "real-world" quote, but one from the Walkers at that time. I may do that today. Anyways, I'm also making a post. It shouldn't take too long.

[Aweirdgamer]

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The Anderson thing was a reference to the Matrix, and wow, that planetmaker is complicated, good job finding it.

Also, I seem to have created an eclipse with words. I HAVE BECOME GOD!

@Father Dagon

Ah. I didn't recognize it. Thanks on the planet maker part.

Roleplay tends to make that happen.

I Hath Returned!

@Shoggothought

Welcome back.

I've been thinking about adding in quotes for every change in era for the Night-Walkers. Not an actual "real-world" quote, but one from the Walkers at that time. I may do that today. Anyways, I'm also making a post. It shouldn't take too long.

@Father Dagon

Do I understand right that you mean of different Night-Walker philosophies?

[Joegreenbeen]

So, what's everybody up to?

[Meiyuuhi]

Slowly trying to finish this post. Very, very... slowly.