[OOC] Road to Berlin

[Errant Son]

@Frengo Danke schön herr Hauptmann. If you have need of any possible translations into German (I assume you are not German, forgive me if that is incorrect) I might be of service given I am Dutch and therefore am practically German (we are well known to be the unofficial 17th Bundesland.)

I also liked your thread. Is that the I44 mod for ARMA2 or is it the new one that's released for ARMA3?

[Frengo]

@Errant SonI was tempted to have Moritz speak in German, but I think it just complicates things at the end of the day. English is a universal language. And no I'm not German, I'm British.

I like the thread too, it started off as a little side project and evolved into something else entirely. And yeah, it's the mod for Arma3.

[Errant Son]

Very nice. I44 was a huge success even if it was under-played by most clans. I hope the new ARMA3 mod sees more success. And yes, it would complicate things a lot. If you'd need a more accurate translation for tanks, logistical components or weaponry then I could be of help is more what I meant - ranks and such also shouldn't be a problem.

I.E. the smaller things that can be used, rather than entire sentences.

[DiZL ReloadeD]

Sooo I heard I got a new Soldier under my command? welcome onboard :D
(@Errant Son and btw it was correct, my first language is german xD)

[Errant Son]

@DiZL ReloadeD Sehr schön, gruß von den siebzehnde bundesland, die Niederlande!

I assume we will be getting rid of this red plague called the Soviet union soon enough aren't we lads.

[DiZL ReloadeD]

@Errant Son Gleichfalls grüße aus Österreich ^^

ofc we will, nothing beats german steel! >:D

(will make the IC post later)

[Frengo]

@Errant Son Gotcha, will keep it in mind. As this is a casual RP, I think I'll keep things light and easily understood. I'm not a soldier - far from it - so anything Mortiz does is going to be a total parody of what an actual leader might be doing and saying.

@Everyone Else: Was my post clear enough? Are we all happy with what's happening and where?

[Errant Son]

@DiZL ReloadeD I don't know man, Russian angled armor is pretty stronk. (Except for the T-34-57 and so on, anything before the 85 was garbage. )

[Lord Coake]

@FrengoSo, where do I come in in regards to your post?

[Frengo]

@FrengoSo, where do I come in in regards to your post?

@Lord Coake

Your character is in mechanised platoon A (or panzergrenadier platoon A, however you want to remember it). So I'd wait for Reloaded to post, ya know, issuing the attack and what not, and then I imagine your character is free to bloody himself in the crucible of death.

[Errant Son]

@Lord Coake In which case, I'll have Joakim stick with your character. :)

@Claw2k11 From what I understood the hint was for Pavlov to run away from the commander, since 2 soviets versus an army is hardly a fair fight, correct?

[Lord Coake]

@Errant Sonsounds like a plan.

[Claw2k11]

@Errant Son

If Pavlov wants to stay, he can, but he'll most likely get captured by the Germans... and we know from history what happened to the prisoners that the nazi caught...

[Errant Son]

Ah. I see.

Subtly telling me to get out then.

[Frengo]

@Errant Son Not to throw a spanner in anyone's Red Parade, but er, didn't the Russians shoot anyone that retreated from a battle? Or is that an exaggerated myth?

[Errant Son]

@Frengo Order 227 was executed only in july, Barbarossa started a month before that. I was actually going to include that but I figured it'd be really weird if we simply shifted the date forwads.

But yes the Russians shot their own men if they retreated. Russian morale was REALLY low during the first month, and everyone retreated constantly causing insane losses (even more so because of suicide charges). They used to have a team of 2 men roll up an old Maxim Machine Gun before a charge to 'support' the infantry. Then there were 1 political commisar and some submachine gunners as well, and if they noticed people were running back they'd shoot.

It gave Russians a choice: run towards Germans and try to shoot them and have an 80% chance of dying or run back to the MG and face a 100% chance of death.

I'd pick the 20% chance of winning against the Germans, you know.

[Frengo]

@Errant Son I remember reading somewhere that a Russian commander sent 20,000 unarmed officers (or tankers? cant remember) into a head-long charge against a panzer division. I can't even begin to imagine the horror.

[Errant Son]

@Frengo Sounds insane but having read some other stories like this, yes it's plausible. I believe that might've been Stalingrad? The charge across the Wolga to get into the city was usually conscripts being put on a boat, arriving on the city bank and then being pushed.

1 man got ammo, the other got a rifle. The one with the ammo followed the man with the rifle, and when the man with the rifle died, the one with the ammo picked up the rifle and shot the Germans. Factual accuracy of this is debated but it was shown in Enemy at the Gates I believe.

[Frengo]

@Frengo Sounds insane but having read some other stories like this, yes it's plausible. I believe that might've been Stalingrad? The charge across the Wolga to get into the city was usually conscripts being put on a boat, arriving on the city bank and then being pushed.

1 man got ammo, the other got a rifle. The one with the ammo followed the man with the rifle, and when the man with the rifle died, the one with the ammo picked up the rifle and shot the Germans. Factual accuracy of this is debated but it was shown in Enemy at the Gates I believe.

@Errant Son

Yeah, we've all seen Enemy at the Gates. It was a good film (annoyed me that the Russians spoke with English accents though!!!!). I read Stalingrad by er... was it Beaver? Can't remember. Good book in any case.

I'm glad the Germans lost and everything, but fuck me, they made some really cringe-worthy mistakes didn't they?

[Lord Coake]

@Errant SonThat's the common depiction of the Battle of Stalingrad, and one that the numbers of casualties support, but any Russian will tell you off and call that western propaganda.